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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's Jean Steinberg with Jean and

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Chris were back at the old stand on the

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para cast a little bit later we'll be

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talking with conspiracy theorists expert

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power political expert Kenneth Thomas

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but the thing that will be more

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interesting here and I'll ask him about

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this I'll give you a little bit of

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refueling there's a story that came out

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this week where they interviewed RFK jr.

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now he's a liberal activists he also

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does talk show on the weekends and he

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revealed that his dad never believed the

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Warren Commission report that a lone

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gunman was responsible for killing JFK

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so that's an interesting development

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kind of vindicating I think the theories

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that a conspiracy was involved fair so

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we'll get into that later why had to

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bring up that guess we have two weeks

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ago Vernor Bach okay and I got a call

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from somebody I won't mention his name

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who claimed to be someone who had

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investigated Bach from one time or

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another and I start talking with him

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when I tried to get him to explain a few

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things because I'm not the kind of

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person who lives down the farm I know

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nothing about it and there are obviously

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a lot of things that I'm making aren't

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about you know in fact some people say

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gene you are professor of ignorance I'll

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go for that you know agree to that so I

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start the conversation running and then

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he starts yelling four-letter words and

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he hangs up so that's the end of that

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guy then I got an email from one of our

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regular listeners who says and I have to

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check it out I think part of it seems to

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at least be correct it may be all

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correct that Bach is a regular call in

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to a radio show the caters to people who

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have anti-zionists or anti-jewish

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beliefs

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now I hate to say that about anybody but

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if that's what Bach Billy

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we don't talk about him anymore he's

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history

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Chris well it's news to me gene that

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never came up in any of my conversations

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with him you know some people when they

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get into really difficult circumstances

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in their lives they tend to strike out

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it at convenient targets and that may

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might be the case with with Verner

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I think paranoia and suspicion kind of

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breed more paranoia and more suspicion

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so it wouldn't surprise me well I can

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understand the frustrations I hate to

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see it directed towards any particular

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religion or race or anything like that

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because that's so unproductive and some

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unfortunate people I could see the

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paranoia I mean in a sense I don't like

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the guy for having that kind of attitude

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but I understand his frustration that

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things so bad are happening to him he's

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living all alone up there he doesn't

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have a family to call on he doesn't seem

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to have any friends and you know if I

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lived a weight like that if I didn't

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have my wife here each day and all the

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people that I contact online and I don't

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really go out all that much except to do

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errands I think I'd be pretty crazy in

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fact I probably am pretty crazy but that

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would make it worse well you know I

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really feel for the guy I really think

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that he has some major issues that he's

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dealing with and you know he badgered me

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to get him on the show and you know we

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did as you know we kept putting it off

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putting off putting me off for good

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reason I I was just I was really on the

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fence about him you know I really do

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feel he's going through you know some

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very difficult times and has been going

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through these these problems for quite

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some time and and he did convince me

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finally that you know his story deserves

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some attention and you know this latest

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bit of news is it doesn't surprise me I

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think we're living in times where we

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need strong men and and you know targets

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out there some of us you know who were

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maybe paranoid or or in a place of fear

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and you know Vernors very German he you

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know grew up in Germany and was

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surrounded by a lot of anti set and a

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somatic thinking and it was kind of

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steeped in him probably as a child and

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and it doesn't surprise me that should

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rear its ugly head later on in his life

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when he feels he's being victimized by

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forces unseen or unknown so you know I'm

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glad we were able to at least get him on

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the show and let him try to explain to

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our audience and is very kind of

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hackneyed away his story you know it's

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interesting the whole cattle mutilation

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subject is for some reason it's coming

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back in vogue I've had two calls today

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just coincidentally from production

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companies doing shows that will cover

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that subject and I find it intriguing

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that this whole subject is after a bit

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of a hiatus I think in the public eye is

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now starting to rear its its mysterious

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head and to get to calls in one day

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about that subject is is I think

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noteworthy now when it comes to new

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books in the subject you're working on

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something I am I'm working on a book

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that I tabled the back in 99 and after I

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got 23 rejection letters from publishers

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who were just scared to death of

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touching the subject and I've dusted off

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the research which I've been slowly kind

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of you know working with and compiling

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more and more research over the past 12

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years 13 years and I decided to finally

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come out with what I would hope to be

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considered the definitive look in an

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objective way at that particular mystery

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the unexplained livestock death

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phenomenon and and it's it's not only

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going to be about that it's also going

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to have a lot of information about

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humans relationship with cattle and how

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cattle you know or have played a very

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big part in in civilization and the

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detrimental aspect of beef protein you

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know being raised and ravishing ravaging

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the land

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it's the largest detrimental force on

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the planet besides humans so I have

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signed a book deal and I will be coming

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out in in the fall with another stocking

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book the working title is stocking the

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herd oh wow no that'd be fascinating of

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course the solution

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- cattle mutilations is for all of us to

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become vegans yeah potentially I beef is

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just one you know one part of the

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immediate eating equation so yeah that

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would help but hey if you weighed all

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the humans on the planet weight all the

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cattle at Cal would vastly outweigh us

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so and they take up a quarter of the

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landmass on the planet and largest

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largest source the source of the

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creation of deserts and I the list goes

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on and on and on about how detrimental

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cattle are to the environment and and

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marbled beef is you know the amount of

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grain that we feed cattle would feed the

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entire planet we'd have no no starving

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people on the planet so it is it is a

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closeted subject and I do plan to bring

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all this type of information in throw it

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into the mix and look at the cattle

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mutilation phenomenon as objectively as

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possible are you going to focus any on

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the paranormal aspect do you believe

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personally that a lot of it is

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paranormal or that's just human

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intervention of some sort I think of a

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vast majority of cases that are reported

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as mutilations are misidentified

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scavenger action I think there are maybe

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ten percent we would be you know kind of

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my ballpark guess ten percent of cases

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that are reported as high strange or

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actually mutilations the other 80 90 %

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are prosaic and mundane explanations

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kind of like UFOs where what is it 90 or

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95% of all UFO sightings have some sort

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of conventional explanation but we have

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that core 5 or 10% that are unknown

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these are the things we have to figure

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out these are the things we have to

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identify exactly well I look forward

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again to the book and I hope you'll let

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me see the manuscript ahead of time yeah

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my feedback yeah ok right free editing

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services this is something that you'd

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have to pay for careful what you wish

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for a gene I will of course we're also

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working on that book the best of caveat

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emptor which is the publication I did

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for numb

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Revere's with Geneva Hagen I don't know

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if it's gonna be called best of best

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stuff doesn't do very well but we have

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all these great interviews with Ray

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Palmer Richard shaver Curtis and Mary

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fuller people who do not get interviewed

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never got interviewed that much during

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their lifetimes and that's gonna be

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fascinating lots of material from 22

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issues that were going to put together

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how the book will be set up and

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distributed I have no idea I do have an

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idea that we're going to focus on the

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man himself the conspiracy theory expert

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who has been on the para cast every so

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often to tell us the latest the greatest

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the most mysterious why do we always

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suspect that things aren't what they

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seem which is what conspiracies are all

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about ken Thomas coming up with Jean and

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Chris you're in Liberec as

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gallon with a low cost automotive

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accessory called platinum 22 which meets

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or exceeds its own fuel saving claims to

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learn if platinum 22 will give you 22

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percent more miles per gallon

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five three seven seven four two seven

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are your Federal Reserve notes looking

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for a safe haven mine found it in

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precious metals not paper promises but

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actual gold in my possession it is

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liquid it is private it owes no one it

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cannot go bankrupt and it maintains its

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purchasing power find your answer at

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midas resources that's one eight hundred

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para cast calm we're joined by the

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conspiracy theorists of the ages Ken

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Thomas is an introduction or is that

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introduction God can I live up to it

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well tell you what we just spent the

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last twenty minutes trying to get his

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connection to work under Skype and the

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powers that be would not allow it they

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would now allow his speakers to work so

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basically we could hear him and he

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couldn't hear us which might be good

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because he can do a monologue that way

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alright right but if that isn't a

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conspiracy then there isn't one they're

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trying to keep me from getting the word

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out well I don't know why do we care Ken

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about conspiracies why don't we believe

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anyone anymore you look at Congress for

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example and they get very low ratings

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you know like ten fifteen percent we

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hate the Republicans more on the

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Democrats but that's not by much

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we don't believe what anybody says it's

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not like the 1950s you know the 1950s we

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believe the authorities today we don't

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what happened the Kennedy assassination

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that was it huh yeah well I in in modern

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times I guess that's you know if you

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wanted to track down to a particular

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historical moment but I mean that seems

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to me why don't we trust anybody because

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they're all liars they're liars and

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thieves and politicians how do you

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really feel Ken I don't really say that

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in anger I just say that it's kind of a

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description the way I might describe it

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is very matter-of-fact I couldn't agree

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more on right but it's a Candie

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assassination that kind of puts the why

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to the whole bureaucratic process you

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know I mean it's bring this up in my

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lectures that if for one thing even the

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government did not believe the lone nut'

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theory but I was well acted alone that

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changed in 1977 they concluded the House

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Committee on assassinations concluded

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that Kennedy died as a result of a

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conspiracy they turn those findings over

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to the Justice Department

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and the Justice Department dropped it no

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public outcry

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because of a synchronistic coincidence

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in newspapers around the country that

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buried that story back in the back pages

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so even today nobody realizes that

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people think that there's a choice

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between the Warren Commission and the

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conspiracy nuts and actually the view

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the the of the government itself is that

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there was a conspiracy and we haven't

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really investigated it so we don't

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really know what's going on and on and

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on you know I remember this story I

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remember being surprised that nobody

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ever followed it up and now let's talk

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about a story that came out what a week

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or two ago where Robert F Kennedy jr.

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son of the late Senator and presidential

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candidate and the brother of JFK said

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that his father you heard the story

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right his father who never believed the

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Warren Commission report on the murder

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of JFK all these years he never revealed

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this right yeah and it's like just now

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he's beginning to suspect that maybe

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there was something wrong there after 50

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years you know I mean we are in the 50th

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anniversary of the Kennedy assassination

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this year know if I'm wrong correct me

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if I'm wrong ken isn't it also true that

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some of the evidence was withheld for 50

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years or was it now 100 years

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oh you mean officially withheld that you

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can't get access to evidence because

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it's been legally sealed that what

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you're saying yes yeah well remember

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after Oliver Stone's movie 92 there was

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the assassination materials Review Board

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but supposedly was going to open up

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doors for all of that but no you are

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exactly right there's still many many

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files and archives that were exempted

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from that process so no we don't have a

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complete picture of it yet yeah I just

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read something recently online some guy

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came forward like a bagman for the mob

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who was involved with Giancana and

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Willis le and nefarious characters like

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that and he claimed that he was flown to

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Dallas and was actually up on the grassy

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knoll and he and I correct me if I'm

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wrong one of the shooters actually hid

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in one of the railroad boxcars while the

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actual sweep was going around by the

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Secret Service

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did are you familiar with this guy I'm

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not quite sure if

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if if I know that guy but I mean it's

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certainly true that there it's famous

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that the three tramps in the rail yard

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behind the grassy knoll were were walked

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off by the cops so there were people in

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the rail yard there well here you're

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saying that one was left behind I guess

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well they actually hid in this guy this

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source came forward and they there he

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and another guy who I think was one of

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the shooters how she hid inside the

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boxcar and then the train pulled out and

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they made their escape okay well I mean

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I I don't know that story but yeah I'm

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gonna have to send this to you I got a

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dig it back up well I found it very long

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yeah but it is a matter of history that

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three clothed hobos were picked up in

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the rail yard at the grassy knoll and

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one of the things I try to point out in

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my lecture is that those there was a lot

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of Ferguson so he said one of them is

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the guy who was the central figure of my

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lectures from the last year and that is

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this guy fredchristman and he supposedly

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is the grassy knoll shooter according to

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Jim Garrison the only guy who ever did

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an investigation of the Kennedy

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assassination right of course quiz

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banais is as famous for his involvement

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in the Morrie Island incident just

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before the Kenneth Arnold sightings that

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Conformity seven that's exactly right

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and for the last couple of years you

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know my my current book I'm a current

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hardcopy book is called JFK and UFO and

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it revisits the whole Morrie on an issue

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and I go into Christmas history and his

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connection there in 1947 with the with

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the Moylan case and then again in 1963

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and try to make this point time and

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again that charisma is a figure who is

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so connected up to both of these things

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in so many coincidental ways it kind of

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makes you start thinking about what our

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coincidence is all about what our

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synchronicity is all about well why is

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it that Christmas is so tied up I

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started this process when I realized I

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went up on Kim Arnold's website if you

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ever talk to Kim Arnold Kenneth arms

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daughter we haven't but Tim back Lee has

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been saying we must and we should and we

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probably will ride see it's it'll be a

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lucky thing if you do if she rarely

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makes

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appearances but she does have a website

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and on this website she has a little

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card that she found in Ken Arnold's

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wallet that lists all the Lincoln

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Kennedy coincidences right those are

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really famous you know Kennedy was in a

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Lincoln Kim Arnold is the daughter of

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Kenneth Arnold a guy of course who saw

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the nine disc aped objects over Mount

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Rainier in 1947 which was the beginning

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of the UFO mystery also involved in the

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Maury island episode which you and I can

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and Kris have discussed we also had

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Kurt's southerly who had done some

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investigations of that over the years

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and he was a guest on the power cast not

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so long ago so that's the background

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let's go back to Kim Arnold and this

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business card okay okay well and and in

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my lectures but another thing that he

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did not Kenneth Arnold did not autograph

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a copy of his book the coming of the

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saucers which actually came out 1952 but

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he didn't autograph a copy for his

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daughter until November 22nd 1973 10

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years after the assassination and again

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he he had carried around the Lincoln

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Kennedy coincidences cards it Kenneth

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Arnold was heavily into this idea of

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synchronicity and coincidence this is

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something that you know most people

490
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don't really understand about him and

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Kim Arnold does it really seem to

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understand the full notion of what these

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00:22:11,129 --> 00:22:09,730
coincidences are about because what is

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the big coincidence here that

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fredchristman who's considered one of

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the people who recovered the flag at

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Moore Island it's also the guy who is

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considered to be the grassy knoll

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shooter any and and the people who can

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think of that are not necessarily

501
00:22:29,580 --> 00:22:28,000
armchair conspiracy people with nutty

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conspiracy theories that's the point

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what we have to stop and do her a break

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we have Karen Thomas of steam shovel

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press and we're going to shovel a lot of

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stuff there to try to find out where the

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facts are clean up all the debris in the

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dirt with Jean and Kris you're in the

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seven the author in this reading and

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just meaning to the paragraph with Jean

613
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and Chris on the power cast Kenneth

614
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Thomas the conspiracy theory expert and

615
00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:21,570
we're talking about the various

616
00:27:26,690 --> 00:27:24,030
conspiracies regarding UFOs Maury island

617
00:27:30,260 --> 00:27:26,700
and the Kennedy assassination

618
00:27:31,780 --> 00:27:30,270
this connection gets freaky please

619
00:27:34,250 --> 00:27:31,790
continue

620
00:27:36,140 --> 00:27:34,260
well it just keeps getting weirder and

621
00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:36,150
weirder well like I said Kim Arnold and

622
00:27:38,930 --> 00:27:37,500
I and I don't want to give Kim Arnold's

623
00:27:40,820 --> 00:27:38,940
story she gives it much better than I do

624
00:27:43,970 --> 00:27:40,830
and she does you know make appearances

625
00:27:45,470 --> 00:27:43,980
he focuses but she does talk about how

626
00:27:47,030 --> 00:27:45,480
her father was very much interested in

627
00:27:49,340 --> 00:27:47,040
this idea of coincidences and

628
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:49,350
synchronicities but what she doesn't

629
00:27:54,170 --> 00:27:51,450
seem to understand is that the biggest

630
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:54,180
coincidence connecting Arnold to the

631
00:27:59,480 --> 00:27:56,010
Kennedy assassination is fredchristman

632
00:28:02,120 --> 00:27:59,490
fredchristman who was the chief suspect

633
00:28:05,270 --> 00:28:02,130
as the grassy knoll shooter to Jim

634
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:05,280
Garrison who prosecuted a New Orleans

635
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:09,210
socialite named clay Shaw in 1968 and

636
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:10,770
he's the subject of the Oliver Stone

637
00:28:15,260 --> 00:28:13,170
movie in 1992 a but Christmas name

638
00:28:18,890 --> 00:28:15,270
doesn't come up in the movie and even

639
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:18,900
even diehard Kennedy JFK assassination

640
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:21,810
buffs don't seem to understand how

641
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:24,450
important Christmas was to Garrison's

642
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:27,210
case but he was but it was and and in

643
00:28:32,150 --> 00:28:29,730
fact garrison went on the Johnny Carson

644
00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:32,160
show with photographs of the three

645
00:28:36,740 --> 00:28:33,390
tramps that we were talking about

646
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:36,750
earlier and if you see my lectures or

647
00:28:41,390 --> 00:28:39,330
see get one of my books you will see

648
00:28:44,990 --> 00:28:41,400
that these tramps one of these tramps is

649
00:28:46,790 --> 00:28:45,000
clearly very crisp and garrison was on

650
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:46,800
The Tonight Show he's holding it up and

651
00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:48,450
he's just about ready to name who he

652
00:28:53,450 --> 00:28:50,640
thinks the shooter is and Johnny Carson

653
00:28:54,410 --> 00:28:53,460
cuts him off I have the audio of this

654
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:54,420
show this is one of the shows that

655
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:56,610
wasn't saves of course when Johnny

656
00:29:00,370 --> 00:28:58,050
Carson shows it wasn't a but I do have

657
00:29:03,740 --> 00:29:00,380
the audio portion of it and they do

658
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:03,750
Oliver Stone trying to recreated it with

659
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:06,570
John Larroquette is Johnny Carson in the

660
00:29:10,850 --> 00:29:08,970
JFK movie but only in the home release

661
00:29:11,570 --> 00:29:10,860
version only in that edit can can you

662
00:29:13,220 --> 00:29:11,580
see this take place

663
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:13,230
so Christmas name doesn't really even

664
00:29:18,620 --> 00:29:15,450
come up in Oliver Stone's movie so there

665
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:18,630
are all these inter connecting though

666
00:29:23,749 --> 00:29:22,710
things connect Maury island and JFK and

667
00:29:25,879 --> 00:29:23,759
then we have a whole other line of

668
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:25,889
research remember an old television show

669
00:29:28,850 --> 00:29:28,529
called the invaders with Roy Thinnes yes

670
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:28,860
I do

671
00:29:34,190 --> 00:29:30,720
yes I had the great privilege once

672
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:34,200
sitting down in Roswell New Mexico with

673
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with Roy Thinnes and watching old

674
00:29:41,389 --> 00:29:38,909
episodes of the invaders but Chrisman

675
00:29:45,249 --> 00:29:41,399
fredchristman made the claim that the

676
00:29:48,860 --> 00:29:45,259
invaders was based on his life okay now

677
00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:48,870
you could you know if you want you can

678
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:51,299
do this for any number of people in our

679
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:52,529
community people that I now say you

680
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:54,450
wanted a crazy conspiracy guy trying to

681
00:29:58,460 --> 00:29:56,490
inject himself into these various

682
00:30:01,039 --> 00:29:58,470
scenarios and into more island and so

683
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:01,049
forth although he never never he never

684
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:02,490
made the claim that he was the grassy

685
00:30:06,649 --> 00:30:04,080
knoll shooter other people make that

686
00:30:10,129 --> 00:30:06,659
claim about him he's she's denied it but

687
00:30:13,340 --> 00:30:10,139
in the course of research for the JFK

688
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:13,350
UFO I discovered that do you remember

689
00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:16,320
who produced the invaders do I remember

690
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:19,710
who produced the invaders I mean I can

691
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:21,809
go to IMDB and check but I'm not going

692
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:23,250
well you'll find out is that it's a

693
00:30:26,659 --> 00:30:24,570
Quinn Martin production I bet you

694
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:26,669
remember that not oh yeah fugitive Quinn

695
00:30:30,649 --> 00:30:28,769
Martin production which also produce the

696
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:30,659
fugitive and also did a show called the

697
00:30:34,940 --> 00:30:32,850
FBI right now what we known a streets of

698
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:34,950
San Francisco and the streets of San

699
00:30:39,169 --> 00:30:36,960
Francisco right but the point about to

700
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:39,179
get the eye is that we know for certain

701
00:30:43,580 --> 00:30:40,529
now as a matter of historical record

702
00:30:46,249 --> 00:30:43,590
that mark felt was a script consultant

703
00:30:49,129 --> 00:30:46,259
to the FBI do you know who Mark felt is

704
00:30:52,909 --> 00:30:49,139
yeah throat you deep throat yeah deep

705
00:30:55,159 --> 00:30:52,919
thought he's been identified as Woodward

706
00:31:00,499 --> 00:30:55,169
and Bernstein's connection you see he's

707
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:00,509
an FBI guy and his other role in history

708
00:31:08,899 --> 00:31:05,039
which is documented by the paperwork on

709
00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:08,909
this is that he hired fredchristman for

710
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:11,039
a job at the Hanford nuclear reactor and

711
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:15,330
Pacific Northwest doing what good glass

712
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:17,039
that's a good question up that I'm not

713
00:31:21,019 --> 00:31:19,049
sure awesome kind of technician I don't

714
00:31:24,379 --> 00:31:21,029
know maybe it's a custodian but the

715
00:31:26,659 --> 00:31:24,389
point is when he says that he feels like

716
00:31:29,629 --> 00:31:26,669
he's connected to the invaders you know

717
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:29,639
there is historical trail that also

718
00:31:33,009 --> 00:31:31,200
suggests this

719
00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:33,019
saying now what I've been doing lately

720
00:31:37,399 --> 00:31:35,279
with my lectures as well

721
00:31:39,620 --> 00:31:37,409
well my parent my current book is called

722
00:31:41,090 --> 00:31:39,630
popular pair of politics and what I'm

723
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:41,100
trying to examine it is this

724
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:42,720
interconnection between the intelligence

725
00:31:51,490 --> 00:31:46,529
agency conspiracy research and popular

726
00:31:55,610 --> 00:31:51,500
culture and this this is one big example

727
00:31:58,090 --> 00:31:55,620
another one it's some episodes of route

728
00:32:01,009 --> 00:31:58,100
66 that also have all of these

729
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:01,019
coincidental connections to the Kennedy

730
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:02,130
assassination there are episodes of

731
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:04,289
route 66 that open in the Fort Worth

732
00:32:08,509 --> 00:32:07,049
Airport of where one of the guys did a

733
00:32:11,810 --> 00:32:08,519
job at the trade mark where Kennedy

734
00:32:16,730 --> 00:32:11,820
wouldn't go and in the course of the

735
00:32:18,289 --> 00:32:16,740
show they talked to Earl caballé whose

736
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:18,299
brother Charles had been fired by

737
00:32:23,379 --> 00:32:20,159
Kennedy over the Bay of Pigs and who

738
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:23,389
himself redirected the motorcade route

739
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:26,880
so that Kennedy drove down Elm Street to

740
00:32:29,090 --> 00:32:27,360
be shot

741
00:32:30,889 --> 00:32:29,100
so all those coincident connections in

742
00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:30,899
an episode of route 66 had actually

743
00:32:36,289 --> 00:32:34,350
aired in 1962 a year before the

744
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:36,299
assassination now this is interesting

745
00:32:41,180 --> 00:32:38,130
here because route 66 is a show from the

746
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,190
60s and it was theoretically about just

747
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:43,440
a couple of young guys traveling in

748
00:32:49,490 --> 00:32:47,250
their car over route 66 and getting into

749
00:32:52,539 --> 00:32:49,500
different adventures as well as Kerouac

750
00:32:58,009 --> 00:32:52,549
and Cassidy basically on the road okay

751
00:33:00,110 --> 00:32:58,019
yeah yeah and and here we are here we

752
00:33:03,620 --> 00:33:00,120
have it you know and so the suggestion

753
00:33:05,419 --> 00:33:03,630
is you know you get into this idea of of

754
00:33:09,019 --> 00:33:05,429
coincidences and synchronicity is it

755
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:09,029
just is it just that or did they work

756
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:10,110
out the plans for the Kennedy

757
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:13,919
assassination in television scripts it's

758
00:33:19,490 --> 00:33:15,450
another episode of route 66 that

759
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:19,500
actually has Tuesday Weld in it and they

760
00:33:27,049 --> 00:33:23,250
they drive past Dallas into a town

761
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:27,059
called Kilkenny and there are any number

762
00:33:32,899 --> 00:33:30,360
of other coincidences I could list them

763
00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:32,909
but one of the supporting pieces of

764
00:33:36,649 --> 00:33:34,980
research we have photographs of George

765
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:36,659
Maharis George Maharis played the neal

766
00:33:41,619 --> 00:33:39,120
cassady figure his brother partying with

767
00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:41,629
jack ruby hit the Carousel Club

768
00:33:48,210 --> 00:33:44,950
okay member so again an episode

769
00:33:49,950 --> 00:33:48,220
from 1962 what with all these

770
00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:49,960
coincidental nods to the Kennedy

771
00:33:53,970 --> 00:33:50,590
assassination

772
00:33:56,129 --> 00:33:53,980
a year before he was killed so right

773
00:33:58,740 --> 00:33:56,139
there's even a third episode of route 66

774
00:34:00,480 --> 00:33:58,750
that should have been broadcast when the

775
00:34:03,690 --> 00:34:00,490
the one Kennedy was shot but it was

776
00:34:06,149 --> 00:34:03,700
pulled because he was shot in hit the

777
00:34:08,190 --> 00:34:06,159
Martin Milner character stops a

778
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:08,200
political assassination in Canada that's

779
00:34:12,810 --> 00:34:10,810
being conducted by his doppelganger his

780
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:12,820
twin and this stuff tails into all this

781
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:14,770
research about the second Oswald and

782
00:34:21,930 --> 00:34:18,970
Oswald's double so all of his stuff you

783
00:34:23,879 --> 00:34:21,940
know which seems like esoteric stuff for

784
00:34:26,849 --> 00:34:23,889
you know the assassination heads up

785
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:26,859
everybody here it is playing out in you

786
00:34:33,569 --> 00:34:29,050
know the major media of the time and the

787
00:34:35,730 --> 00:34:33,579
life imitating art it's like the the

788
00:34:37,740 --> 00:34:35,740
lone gunman episode that had the the

789
00:34:40,770 --> 00:34:37,750
plane about ready to crash into the

790
00:34:42,089 --> 00:34:40,780
World Trade Center right and you know

791
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:42,099
what another interesting thing about

792
00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:44,169
that episode of the lone gunman is that

793
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:47,310
that plane is being guided remotely by

794
00:34:55,379 --> 00:34:51,119
something called the octopus ship right

795
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:55,389
yeah which is a play off of my earlier

796
00:35:01,020 --> 00:34:56,800
book the octopus which was about the

797
00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:01,030
promise software which is a very okay

798
00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:03,060
just stop and say something here okay

799
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:04,270
uh-huh

800
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:08,560
okay the last film I can find for George

801
00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:09,119
Maharis

802
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:14,190
uh-huh is one called doppelganger from

803
00:35:23,460 --> 00:35:19,650
1993 speaking of doppelgangers oh my god

804
00:35:26,010 --> 00:35:23,470
well you know I just got back from Los

805
00:35:28,109 --> 00:35:26,020
Angeles where I did a business talk

806
00:35:31,380 --> 00:35:28,119
excited to talk twice and some people

807
00:35:33,180 --> 00:35:31,390
showed up and my dear friends either

808
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:33,190
alphaman set this thing up and she was

809
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:34,930
looking for places for me to do it and

810
00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:37,810
she found a place but the place that she

811
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:39,790
finally depending on the guys there's a

812
00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:42,310
guy there who was the connection for his

813
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:48,670
name was kruseman I think the more you

814
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:49,810
look at it the more these coincidences

815
00:35:53,819 --> 00:35:52,089
start building up we really begin to

816
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:53,829
wonder about coincidences and actually

817
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there's a science to it and a history to

818
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it

819
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Arthur Kessler actually wrote a book

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called the roots

821
00:36:03,089 --> 00:36:01,329
coincidences in like 1972 and while in

822
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the process of doing research he started

823
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:04,980
having all these strange coincidences

824
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happening to him - yeah every so often

825
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we see a news story where somebody

826
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resurrects the you know the theory that

827
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somehow the Kennedy assassination had

828
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something to do with UFOs and and some

829
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sort of secret knowledge that the

830
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government was holding concerning UFOs

831
00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:24,790
where do you come down on that I've

832
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never really seen anything impressive

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enough for me to really entertain that

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but though you're the expert I think

835
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before he gives his answer he cannot

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give his answer until I tell you this

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Ken Thomas is joining gene and Chris

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because he will learn a great deal about

939
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paranormal you know Chris has this great

940
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sense of timing he knows we're about at

941
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the point of a break with the show split

942
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for some business and then he asked a

943
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very interesting question of our guest

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who is Ken Thomas the power political

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00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:35,470
guy who specializes in conspiracy

946
00:41:41,370 --> 00:41:36,910
theories of all kinds and we're talking

947
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:41,380
about JFK the assassination UFOs and all

948
00:41:45,930 --> 00:41:43,930
sorts of stuff even the route 66 TV show

949
00:41:50,670 --> 00:41:45,940
and a movie called doppelganger and I

950
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:50,680
think I've given up on this skin kind of

951
00:41:53,730 --> 00:41:52,480
hard to follow after all that you know

952
00:41:55,170 --> 00:41:53,740
the broad stroke tricks the birther

953
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:55,180
question is what does JFK have to do

954
00:41:59,940 --> 00:41:57,130
with UFOs and again the answer is

955
00:42:01,410 --> 00:41:59,950
fredchristman fredchristman and I'm

956
00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:01,420
sorry I raced forward on a lot of this

957
00:42:04,410 --> 00:42:02,590
stuff because I've been lecturing at

958
00:42:06,510 --> 00:42:04,420
Maury island for a couple of years so I

959
00:42:07,950 --> 00:42:06,520
just assume level of knowledge actually

960
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:07,960
that most people don't have so let's

961
00:42:11,610 --> 00:42:10,090
just talk about the Maury Island

962
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:11,620
incident would happen which happened

963
00:42:17,090 --> 00:42:13,810
like three days prior to Kenneth

964
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Arnold's famous incident in which these

965
00:42:22,650 --> 00:42:19,840
saucers came down over the harbor in

966
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Puget Sound there and released some kind

967
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of a substance onto this ship one of the

968
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saucers wobbled then it was touched by

969
00:42:31,290 --> 00:42:28,840
another one of the sauces and it

970
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:31,300
straightened up and it took off there

971
00:42:35,460 --> 00:42:33,310
are two witnesses to this event one of

972
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:35,470
them of this guy Harold Dahl and by the

973
00:42:40,110 --> 00:42:37,690
way one of the three tramps in them that

974
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:40,120
were arrested in Dealey Plaza that his

975
00:42:44,070 --> 00:42:41,920
name was Harold Doyle

976
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which if you say that with a Texas

977
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accent but anyway the other was this guy

978
00:42:54,060 --> 00:42:51,460
fredchristman and it was Chrisman who

979
00:42:58,410 --> 00:42:54,070
collected the samples that had been

980
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:58,420
jettisoned by the flying saucers loaded

981
00:43:02,520 --> 00:42:59,680
and put of it all on a Kellogg's

982
00:43:05,370 --> 00:43:02,530
cornflakes box and gave it to some Air

983
00:43:08,010 --> 00:43:05,380
Force investigators who came out after

984
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Kenneth Arnold who had been hired to

985
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investigate after he was finished good

986
00:43:11,830 --> 00:43:11,110
didn't know what to do with it turned

987
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:11,840
out to be there for

988
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:13,970
guys they got on a b25 they're gonna

989
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:15,440
take it off to wright-patterson Air

990
00:43:19,870 --> 00:43:17,690
Force Base and their plane crashed and

991
00:43:23,170 --> 00:43:19,880
they were killed and that's where that

992
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:23,180
story and even though there's still a

993
00:43:28,420 --> 00:43:25,370
debris site a crash site in Kelso

994
00:43:31,180 --> 00:43:28,430
Washington that has not been excavated

995
00:43:32,860 --> 00:43:31,190
nearly as much as it should be because

996
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:32,870
people do not understand this history

997
00:43:36,970 --> 00:43:34,490
you know people understood the

998
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:36,980
connection between that UFO event and

999
00:43:42,190 --> 00:43:39,110
the Kennedy assassination there would be

1000
00:43:45,070 --> 00:43:42,200
a much larger human cry to excavate

1001
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there and to you know recover the flag

1002
00:43:49,810 --> 00:43:47,510
find out whatever the heck another so

1003
00:43:51,940 --> 00:43:49,820
UFO Hunters can that was their first

1004
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:51,950
pilot episode they went looking for that

1005
00:43:55,210 --> 00:43:53,570
and they actually found what they

1006
00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:55,220
thought were pieces of that crashed

1007
00:44:01,390 --> 00:43:56,240
bomber

1008
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:01,400
right it was bill birnes bill burns

1009
00:44:03,820 --> 00:44:02,570
yeah I've talked to Bill about this I've

1010
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:03,830
been on Bill shell when we talk a little

1011
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:05,210
about that but he no he agrees with me

1012
00:44:08,380 --> 00:44:07,130
there's a lot more that can be done they

1013
00:44:10,530 --> 00:44:08,390
were able to get some things they were

1014
00:44:14,050 --> 00:44:10,540
inhibited but he's never been fully

1015
00:44:15,610 --> 00:44:14,060
fully excavated you know back to the

1016
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:15,620
slang that was supposedly dropped by the

1017
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:19,490
phone you know of course Arnold sent

1018
00:44:24,340 --> 00:44:21,200
some of that material to Ray Palmer

1019
00:44:26,410 --> 00:44:24,350
right and we talked to Ray Palmer's son

1020
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:26,420
Raymond beat Palmer just a couple of

1021
00:44:30,190 --> 00:44:28,850
weeks back on the power cast and he said

1022
00:44:34,810 --> 00:44:30,200
he still has a couple of pieces lying

1023
00:44:37,180 --> 00:44:34,820
around I don't recall any definitive

1024
00:44:42,430 --> 00:44:37,190
analysis that indicated anything being

1025
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:42,440
strange sighs about a colony right well

1026
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:44,090
you don't want to get too sidetracked

1027
00:44:47,710 --> 00:44:46,250
from the major issue and that is that

1028
00:44:49,210 --> 00:44:47,720
Davidson and Brown died in that crash

1029
00:44:51,010 --> 00:44:49,220
and that was the end of the year full

1030
00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:51,020
investigation one way or another

1031
00:44:56,050 --> 00:44:52,910
something stopped the investigation

1032
00:44:59,110 --> 00:44:56,060
whatever it was you know I mean I would

1033
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:59,120
love to get this debris from Ray Palmer

1034
00:45:02,170 --> 00:45:00,800
Jr I'd love to excavate I would love to

1035
00:45:03,790 --> 00:45:02,180
look at more and you know let's let's

1036
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:03,800
think about it but the point is that

1037
00:45:09,850 --> 00:45:07,010
somebody there fredchristman who gave

1038
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:09,860
Davidson and Braun the Kellogg's Corn

1039
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:11,530
Flakes box with the stuff in it

1040
00:45:16,450 --> 00:45:14,720
sabotaged the Air Force investigation of

1041
00:45:19,930 --> 00:45:16,460
the UFO incident that's where it ended

1042
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:19,940
and the original question of we were

1043
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:21,530
doing with here is what's that got to do

1044
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:24,290
with JFK and just to underscore and

1045
00:45:28,539 --> 00:45:25,609
obviously

1046
00:45:31,630 --> 00:45:28,549
fredchristman is the Mandan Jim Garrison

1047
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:31,640
thought was the grassy knolls shooter in

1048
00:45:36,940 --> 00:45:34,880
a failed investigation in 1968 this was

1049
00:45:40,269 --> 00:45:36,950
also the conclusion that there was a

1050
00:45:41,799 --> 00:45:40,279
conspiracy it was proven for garrison

1051
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:41,809
even though Garrison's case against his

1052
00:45:47,499 --> 00:45:44,480
main guy Clay Shaw did and didn't work

1053
00:45:49,509 --> 00:45:47,509
out in 1977 it was the same conclusion

1054
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:49,519
that the US government came to that

1055
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:51,920
there was a conspiracy in the case of

1056
00:45:58,720 --> 00:45:54,170
the Kennedy assassination so if all

1057
00:46:00,999 --> 00:45:58,730
things were as they should be then we

1058
00:46:03,339 --> 00:46:01,009
would have authentic investigation of

1059
00:46:07,390 --> 00:46:03,349
what happened would be assassination and

1060
00:46:10,569 --> 00:46:07,400
also of the boy island UFO thing now the

1061
00:46:14,170 --> 00:46:10,579
Moriya UFO thing is officially listed as

1062
00:46:15,970 --> 00:46:14,180
something conventional or a hoax and of

1063
00:46:20,739 --> 00:46:15,980
course edward rappelled who was had a

1064
00:46:22,839 --> 00:46:20,749
project Bluebook called it a hoax so is

1065
00:46:24,099 --> 00:46:22,849
not saying that it was a hoax but i'm

1066
00:46:26,259 --> 00:46:24,109
trying to put the two things together

1067
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:26,269
here we have Maury island for whatever

1068
00:46:30,759 --> 00:46:29,089
reason involving this guy Crispin we

1069
00:46:33,370 --> 00:46:30,769
have the investigation of the Kennedy

1070
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:33,380
assassination once again possibly

1071
00:46:37,059 --> 00:46:34,910
involving Chrisman least according to

1072
00:46:38,799 --> 00:46:37,069
Jim Garrison but I'm not seeing the

1073
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:38,809
connection with the events I'm thinking

1074
00:46:43,150 --> 00:46:40,730
the connection with the person this guy

1075
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:43,160
may have been involved in both in one

1076
00:46:50,529 --> 00:46:44,960
case as a witness and the other case as

1077
00:46:52,989 --> 00:46:50,539
maybe one of the participants you've

1078
00:46:55,390 --> 00:46:52,999
missed my point then the point is again

1079
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:55,400
chrisben is a guy who loaded up to

1080
00:46:59,170 --> 00:46:57,650
Kellogg's cornflakes box he's the guy

1081
00:47:00,970 --> 00:46:59,180
who sabotaged the plane he's probably

1082
00:47:03,460 --> 00:47:00,980
the guy responsible for the deaths of

1083
00:47:05,380 --> 00:47:03,470
Davidson and Brown but that is a coup

1084
00:47:07,269 --> 00:47:05,390
that is a resonate bill

1085
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:07,279
the only point is that occur the

1086
00:47:12,940 --> 00:47:10,609
Chrisman is it seems to be a hit man

1087
00:47:14,799 --> 00:47:12,950
involved in both Moya and UFO and in the

1088
00:47:17,799 --> 00:47:14,809
Kennedy assassination okay so the point

1089
00:47:19,989 --> 00:47:17,809
is here is that UFOs it's not because

1090
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:19,999
they thought UFOs are real or have a

1091
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:22,609
mystery involved there it's because this

1092
00:47:28,420 --> 00:47:25,910
guy is a hit man and for whatever reason

1093
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:28,430
intelligence reasons whatever he was

1094
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:32,569
involved in the deaths of these people

1095
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:34,730
in that plane crash at Maury island and

1096
00:47:38,349 --> 00:47:36,410
also involved in the Kennedy

1097
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:38,359
assassination but there's no paranormal

1098
00:47:42,190 --> 00:47:39,050
aspect

1099
00:47:44,350 --> 00:47:42,200
- it is there are you asking me yes I am

1100
00:47:45,940 --> 00:47:44,360
yeah well since the air force

1101
00:47:49,170 --> 00:47:45,950
investigation was cut short we don't

1102
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:49,180
really know do we but why you know why

1103
00:47:52,660 --> 00:47:51,200
Wendy got a couple Air Force

1104
00:47:54,910 --> 00:47:52,670
investigators coming out that you know

1105
00:47:57,580 --> 00:47:54,920
this is a hoax and you could completely

1106
00:47:59,950 --> 00:47:57,590
clearly could you know bust it open wide

1107
00:48:02,050 --> 00:47:59,960
just by letting these guys make complete

1108
00:48:06,610 --> 00:48:02,060
the trip - right Pat and analyze this

1109
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:06,620
stuff as a slag why did they where they

1110
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:08,960
kill them I could have been it was just

1111
00:48:17,650 --> 00:48:13,850
an accident you know but it was more

1112
00:48:19,660 --> 00:48:17,660
likely that the covert world was trying

1113
00:48:22,420 --> 00:48:19,670
to keep a lid on whatever was going on

1114
00:48:23,740 --> 00:48:22,430
with the UFO situation at the time and I

1115
00:48:25,210 --> 00:48:23,750
don't like to characterize it you know I

1116
00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:25,220
don't I don't really know for sure what

1117
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:27,680
it is it could be cover-up of an alien

1118
00:48:36,010 --> 00:48:33,110
invasion could be or because of secret

1119
00:48:37,660 --> 00:48:36,020
weapons testing ken because a lot of the

1120
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:37,670
sightings in those days may have

1121
00:48:42,310 --> 00:48:40,370
involved test aircraft and certainly

1122
00:48:45,850 --> 00:48:42,320
there'd be a valid intelligence reason

1123
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:45,860
not to let that get out well yeah that's

1124
00:48:50,860 --> 00:48:49,280
true that's true but the reason we don't

1125
00:48:54,460 --> 00:48:50,870
know it is because the people who

1126
00:48:58,930 --> 00:48:54,470
investigated were killed there's been

1127
00:49:00,940 --> 00:48:58,940
some speculation Joe Farrell is one that

1128
00:49:02,980 --> 00:49:00,950
comes to mind that possibly the objects

1129
00:49:05,890 --> 00:49:02,990
that Arnold saw could have been Horton

1130
00:49:09,090 --> 00:49:05,900
brothers prototypes some sort of Horton

1131
00:49:12,310 --> 00:49:09,100
brothers flying wing type type aircraft

1132
00:49:17,470 --> 00:49:12,320
well they were they were Chevron's not

1133
00:49:19,570 --> 00:49:17,480
saucers right right yeah yeah yeah well

1134
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:19,580
I mean it could be anything it's also an

1135
00:49:23,740 --> 00:49:21,650
interesting idea that the wobbling craft

1136
00:49:26,020 --> 00:49:23,750
in the Mauryan case eventually never

1137
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:26,030
pear didn't didn't take and eventually

1138
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:30,530
it crashed in Roswell that's an

1139
00:49:35,860 --> 00:49:32,450
interesting idea though cuz at the time

1140
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:35,870
the time frame is is within a month yeah

1141
00:49:44,550 --> 00:49:40,490
I think I mentioned this to you before

1142
00:49:49,620 --> 00:49:44,560
but my dad was a Coast Guard Coast Guard

1143
00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:49,630
seaman in Puget Sound in the mid 40s and

1144
00:49:55,089 --> 00:49:52,640
he told he told the family on a couple

1145
00:49:57,099 --> 00:49:55,099
occasions that they had just gotten on

1146
00:50:01,779 --> 00:49:57,109
radar units for their Coast Guard Cutter

1147
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:01,789
I think this would have been 46 and they

1148
00:50:06,009 --> 00:50:04,609
witnessed objects traveling in excess of

1149
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:06,019
ten thousand miles an hour and they

1150
00:50:10,029 --> 00:50:07,730
appeared to be coming in and out of the

1151
00:50:12,250 --> 00:50:10,039
straits of Juan de Fuca and you know at

1152
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:12,260
the northern end of Puget Sound of

1153
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:14,720
course later on my night when I tried to

1154
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:16,970
get him to verify the story he totally

1155
00:50:24,809 --> 00:50:18,650
went into denial and said I never told

1156
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:24,819
you that in the late forties pardon me

1157
00:50:31,180 --> 00:50:27,680
this happened in the late 40s right he

1158
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:31,190
was in the Coast Guard 46 47 48 yeah

1159
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:33,650
yeah well you know Kenneth Arnold was up

1160
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:35,690
there actually looking for the crash of

1161
00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:39,170
a marine transport he was going after

1162
00:50:43,839 --> 00:50:40,880
going after a right when he was flying

1163
00:50:45,220 --> 00:50:43,849
that a wrong and he saw though I mean

1164
00:50:47,470 --> 00:50:45,230
Phyllis even a suggestion that maybe

1165
00:50:49,809 --> 00:50:47,480
that transport went down because of some

1166
00:50:51,970 --> 00:50:49,819
kind of encounter with UFOs flying

1167
00:50:53,529 --> 00:50:51,980
saucers and another thing that you

1168
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:53,539
mentioned in your book on Maury island

1169
00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:55,490
about fredchristman is is there some

1170
00:51:00,759 --> 00:50:58,640
indication he he may have been involved

1171
00:51:03,970 --> 00:51:00,769
in the search for Japanese looted gold

1172
00:51:06,430 --> 00:51:03,980
in the Philippines if I remember class

1173
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:06,440
well yeah well well if you if you really

1174
00:51:12,339 --> 00:51:09,410
want to trace Chrisman's history he yeah

1175
00:51:14,380 --> 00:51:12,349
he first appears well actually but his

1176
00:51:17,230 --> 00:51:14,390
second appearance for the public scene

1177
00:51:19,299 --> 00:51:17,240
is are in these letters that he wrote to

1178
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:19,309
Ray Palmer's amazing stories as pulp

1179
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:21,529
magazines okay you know we get into a

1180
00:51:26,170 --> 00:51:23,049
lot more of this in our next segment

1181
00:51:29,769 --> 00:51:26,180
Fred Lee Chrisman Ray Palmer Kenneth

1182
00:51:31,569 --> 00:51:29,779
Arnold the Kennedy assassination Wow and

1183
00:51:36,830 --> 00:51:31,579
Thomas joining us with Gene and Chris

1184
00:51:41,850 --> 00:51:38,270
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1206
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1208
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1209
00:52:34,740 --> 00:52:33,610
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1210
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:34,750
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1211
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1240
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:00,170
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1241
00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:04,490
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1242
00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:12,329
here's Jane Steinberg Chris is taking on

1243
00:54:19,250 --> 00:54:15,569
his best possible trickster voice for

1244
00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:19,260
this you know because remember Chris is

1245
00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:21,660
the trickster he's stalking tricksters

1246
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:23,280
he's going to be stalking cattle too

1247
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:25,200
soon and we'll have a steak dinner with

1248
00:54:30,049 --> 00:54:27,599
him next week but anyway okay so we're

1249
00:54:32,030 --> 00:54:30,059
talking about Fred Crispin's background

1250
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:32,040
was he in the military at all what oh

1251
00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:35,010
yeah he was he fought in World War two

1252
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:36,510
in Korea he was one of those reactivated

1253
00:54:42,020 --> 00:54:39,569
and vets like my dad actually so he yeah

1254
00:54:45,470 --> 00:54:42,030
he fought both lenox he belonged to the

1255
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:45,480
OSS but his stories though his war

1256
00:54:49,069 --> 00:54:47,609
stories originally appeared in pulp

1257
00:54:51,890 --> 00:54:49,079
magazines that were published by Ray

1258
00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:51,900
Palmer and that's almost a whole other

1259
00:55:00,980 --> 00:54:54,559
lecture about what Ray Palmer was doing

1260
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:00,990
creating a reporting hold legend of

1261
00:55:05,900 --> 00:55:03,839
these underground creatures called the

1262
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:05,910
Darrow's of course we've done a lot of

1263
00:55:09,470 --> 00:55:08,010
discussions on shave through the

1264
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:09,480
favorite mystery because you know I knew

1265
00:55:14,539 --> 00:55:12,089
history I knew Palmer and shaver you

1266
00:55:16,849 --> 00:55:14,549
know that right you did right yes right

1267
00:55:17,870 --> 00:55:16,859
yeah yes I did for sure I knew that yeah

1268
00:55:19,370 --> 00:55:17,880
so you say you know what I'm talking

1269
00:55:21,140 --> 00:55:19,380
about Chrisman was part of that Kurtzman

1270
00:55:24,170 --> 00:55:21,150
wrote letters to Palmer that he

1271
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:24,180
published in you know before my Island

1272
00:55:29,180 --> 00:55:25,680
in which he said he got shot in the arm

1273
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:29,190
with a something that seems very eerily

1274
00:55:32,839 --> 00:55:30,930
like a laser before the laser was ever

1275
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:32,849
invented and bought a little hole in his

1276
00:55:36,349 --> 00:55:34,650
arm you know I had two or three letters

1277
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:36,359
and it said that's the that's the second

1278
00:55:40,010 --> 00:55:37,650
place where you see Chrisman the first

1279
00:55:41,450 --> 00:55:40,020
place is actually in an issue of

1280
00:55:43,370 --> 00:55:41,460
Harper's Weekly where they're doing a

1281
00:55:45,230 --> 00:55:43,380
report on the world's first science

1282
00:55:47,539 --> 00:55:45,240
fiction convention and lo and behold the

1283
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:47,549
guy they talk to it's Fred Lee Chrisman

1284
00:55:52,220 --> 00:55:50,250
so so that's you know that's that that's

1285
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:52,230
kind of where he enters the picture he's

1286
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:53,520
already like a science fiction guy

1287
00:55:58,339 --> 00:55:55,770
already kind of oriented toward a

1288
00:56:01,309 --> 00:55:58,349
d--ation that involves you know aliens

1289
00:56:03,170 --> 00:56:01,319
and that kind of thing and and he's not

1290
00:56:05,870 --> 00:56:03,180
actually even a direct witness of the

1291
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:05,880
Mori Island case he comes in later the

1292
00:56:09,059 --> 00:56:08,010
he was not on the boat with with Harold

1293
00:56:10,829 --> 00:56:09,069
Dahl

1294
00:56:13,979 --> 00:56:10,839
and all want to tell him because

1295
00:56:15,689 --> 00:56:13,989
supposedly he owned the boat but that's

1296
00:56:17,969 --> 00:56:15,699
not what the historic record says it

1297
00:56:21,329 --> 00:56:17,979
says what was ongoing held so he comes

1298
00:56:24,359 --> 00:56:21,339
down like the next day and he sees yet

1299
00:56:27,209 --> 00:56:24,369
another saucer so that's how he's kind

1300
00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:27,219
of shoehorned into this and that's all

1301
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:29,229
really kind of fishy of course I keep

1302
00:56:35,159 --> 00:56:31,839
worrying here how did all this the

1303
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:35,169
involvement with saucers the possible

1304
00:56:41,549 --> 00:56:39,729
assassination of these investigators by

1305
00:56:43,439 --> 00:56:41,559
causing that plane to crash and then

1306
00:56:45,989 --> 00:56:43,449
dovetailing it into the Kennedy

1307
00:56:50,759 --> 00:56:45,999
assassination I'm still I guess a little

1308
00:56:53,669 --> 00:56:50,769
dim about that okay well that's part of

1309
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:53,679
the reason why I try to emphasize this

1310
00:56:59,009 --> 00:56:57,130
notion of coincidence which you know

1311
00:57:01,259 --> 00:56:59,019
there's there used to be a thing about

1312
00:57:05,429 --> 00:57:01,269
things are either car cops coincidences

1313
00:57:09,650 --> 00:57:05,439
or conspiracies but it just seems to I

1314
00:57:12,449 --> 00:57:09,660
think defy anybody's common sense that

1315
00:57:15,029 --> 00:57:12,459
it's some kind of coincidence that this

1316
00:57:18,839 --> 00:57:15,039
guy Chrisman was involved in really the

1317
00:57:20,699 --> 00:57:18,849
first UFO case in the late 40s and the

1318
00:57:23,249 --> 00:57:20,709
Kennedy assassination that's just a

1319
00:57:25,739 --> 00:57:23,259
coincidence well I don't know it depends

1320
00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:25,749
on what he did in the candy

1321
00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:28,209
assassination in the sense of who were

1322
00:57:35,130 --> 00:57:31,630
his bosses who hired him to perform that

1323
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:35,140
murder who hired him back in the 40s to

1324
00:57:40,049 --> 00:57:37,689
caused that plane to crash the question

1325
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:40,059
is not so much who he was he may have

1326
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:42,689
been just the guy who happened to do the

1327
00:57:48,299 --> 00:57:45,609
dirty work but who made him do that

1328
00:57:51,929 --> 00:57:48,309
dirty work well well yeah just you just

1329
00:57:54,539 --> 00:57:51,939
the trigger man really but when you

1330
00:57:56,309 --> 00:57:54,549
consider the span of time there the long

1331
00:57:58,499 --> 00:57:56,319
term durability of this then you begin

1332
00:58:00,839 --> 00:57:58,509
to understand the extent of whoever

1333
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:00,849
those people were whoever his bosses

1334
00:58:04,979 --> 00:58:02,650
were they around in the 40s

1335
00:58:07,919 --> 00:58:04,989
they around in the 60s and the point I

1336
00:58:11,789 --> 00:58:07,929
was about to make before was that his

1337
00:58:14,489 --> 00:58:11,799
business partner in the 70s was a man

1338
00:58:17,219 --> 00:58:14,499
named Marshall record Sciuto whose son

1339
00:58:19,709 --> 00:58:17,229
Michael became the main witness to Danny

1340
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:19,719
casolaro and it's a very big important

1341
00:58:24,930 --> 00:58:22,559
part of this thing called the octopus

1342
00:58:26,370 --> 00:58:24,940
the you know was a book that I wrote a

1343
00:58:28,260 --> 00:58:26,380
number of years ago octopus in the

1344
00:58:29,069 --> 00:58:28,270
secret does secret government in desert

1345
00:58:31,710 --> 00:58:29,079
Danny casolaro

1346
00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:31,720
and the octopus conspiracy that is all

1347
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,809
about the promise software and the most

1348
00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:36,400
advanced technology we have the thing

1349
00:58:45,059 --> 00:58:38,609
that's you know driving Skype right now

1350
00:58:53,970 --> 00:58:45,069
and is that why we have problems

1351
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:53,980
connecting with you I can't why don't

1352
00:58:58,170 --> 00:58:56,170
you for some of our first time listeners

1353
00:58:59,760 --> 00:58:58,180
who may not be up to speed on what the

1354
00:59:02,069 --> 00:58:59,770
promise software was once you give us a

1355
00:59:05,309 --> 00:59:02,079
quick thumbnail sketch of how important

1356
00:59:08,430 --> 00:59:05,319
this particular backdoor software was

1357
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:08,440
how it could have really changed world

1358
00:59:12,450 --> 00:59:11,290
events well it did change world events

1359
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:12,460
it was developed actually as part of

1360
00:59:16,620 --> 00:59:14,650
Operation Phoenix and in Vietnam and

1361
00:59:20,609 --> 00:59:16,630
came into full our own beer company

1362
00:59:23,099 --> 00:59:20,619
called inslaw and the idea is that it's

1363
00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:23,109
it has backdoor access it was sold

1364
00:59:28,530 --> 00:59:27,369
basically illegally to not by the people

1365
00:59:31,260 --> 00:59:28,540
who created it but by this guy this

1366
00:59:34,770 --> 00:59:31,270
Reagan functionary guy named Earl Bryan

1367
00:59:35,660 --> 00:59:34,780
sold it to like the Canadian Mounted

1368
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:35,670
Police

1369
00:59:41,849 --> 00:59:39,609
Mossad ISI all of the secret agencies

1370
00:59:44,539 --> 00:59:41,859
around the world bought this promise

1371
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:44,549
software which has this fantastic

1372
00:59:49,620 --> 00:59:46,960
extrapolation capacity you feed it data

1373
00:59:50,910 --> 00:59:49,630
and it can tell you what's going to

1374
00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:50,920
happen where it's going to happen and

1375
00:59:53,730 --> 00:59:51,760
that kind of thing

1376
00:59:56,010 --> 00:59:53,740
so but in the process of selling that to

1377
00:59:59,870 --> 00:59:56,020
people they sold it with a backdoor

1378
01:00:02,280 --> 00:59:59,880
which allowed our Central Intelligence

1379
01:00:03,809 --> 01:00:02,290
Agency and I don't want to call the CIA

1380
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:03,819
because I think the CIA is probably just

1381
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:05,200
some kind of division of whatever the

1382
01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:06,910
heck you want to call that big agency

1383
01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:09,609
gave us the capacity to spy on every one

1384
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:12,400
of the other spy agencies and totally

1385
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:15,490
centralizing covert control of the

1386
01:00:19,799 --> 01:00:17,680
planet really and you know what before

1387
01:00:22,170 --> 01:00:19,809
you go on are you familiar with the TV

1388
01:00:24,990 --> 01:00:22,180
show created by Jonathan Nolan brother

1389
01:00:27,660 --> 01:00:25,000
of Christopher knowing the Batman Dark

1390
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:27,670
Knight guy called person of interest

1391
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:29,770
about the sky he was invented this

1392
01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:32,049
all-knowing computer and he uses the

1393
01:00:35,460 --> 01:00:34,390
back door for it to predict that crimes

1394
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:35,470
are going to happen

1395
01:00:41,730 --> 01:00:39,490
and he hires his former CIA hitman to

1396
01:00:43,830 --> 01:00:41,740
help them protect those people person of

1397
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:43,840
interest I don't know I've never heard

1398
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:45,760
that one that's very interesting when

1399
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:48,210
did that come out that's in CTS it's a

1400
01:00:51,660 --> 01:00:49,810
really popular

1401
01:00:55,770 --> 01:00:51,670
oh it's current oh the current shows it

1402
01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:55,780
is a current show it runs every Thursday

1403
01:00:59,760 --> 01:00:57,760
night gets good ratings in its second

1404
01:01:01,860 --> 01:00:59,770
year and like I said Jonathan Nolan

1405
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:01,870
brother Christopher Nolan is the creator

1406
01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:04,210
and executive producer along with JJ

1407
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:06,070
Abrams it was the guy of course who did

1408
01:01:09,780 --> 01:01:07,810
the Star Trek reboot and is now doing

1409
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:09,790
the next Star Wars film that kind of

1410
01:01:15,180 --> 01:01:12,490
thing but I hate fringe right yeah he's

1411
01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:15,190
French JJ Abrams is fringe an alias and

1412
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:18,310
Felicity in all those shows but lost was

1413
01:01:23,610 --> 01:01:21,250
his real first big show and I've lost

1414
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:23,620
Michael Emerson one the Stars have lost

1415
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:27,850
is the star one of the stars of Person

1416
01:01:31,110 --> 01:01:29,650
of Interest along with Jim Caviezel who

1417
01:01:34,770 --> 01:01:31,120
also played Christ in the Mel Gibson

1418
01:01:36,420 --> 01:01:34,780
movie aha okay very interesting that's

1419
01:01:39,570 --> 01:01:36,430
interesting well I've not heard of that

1420
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:39,580
I only because all of the travel and the

1421
01:01:43,740 --> 01:01:40,960
writing are doing I'm good to watch as

1422
01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:43,750
much television as I want but I'm saying

1423
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:45,670
well is it I did see a program on the

1424
01:01:54,270 --> 01:01:47,610
sci-fi channel this last night called

1425
01:01:55,740 --> 01:01:54,280
continuum yes in that yes from explain

1426
01:01:58,050 --> 01:01:55,750
to everybody what continuum is about

1427
01:02:00,990 --> 01:01:58,060
because I kind of like the show well I

1428
01:02:02,730 --> 01:02:01,000
kind of think it's there's a scary

1429
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:02,740
premise underneath it all because the

1430
01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:05,050
cop is this woman from the future but

1431
01:02:12,450 --> 01:02:06,910
the future is where they suspended all

1432
01:02:14,100 --> 01:02:12,460
human rights and and these people or do

1433
01:02:16,830 --> 01:02:14,110
they characterize as terrorists or are

1434
01:02:19,740 --> 01:02:16,840
actually protesting this extraordinarily

1435
01:02:21,890 --> 01:02:19,750
oppressive government so she represents

1436
01:02:26,190 --> 01:02:21,900
you know she's supposed to be a good guy

1437
01:02:29,010 --> 01:02:26,200
although she represents a an authority

1438
01:02:29,970 --> 01:02:29,020
that is just terribly oppressive so what

1439
01:02:31,890 --> 01:02:29,980
is the you know what is the message

1440
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:31,900
they're trying to send out there and the

1441
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:33,490
protesters of course are the evil

1442
01:02:38,670 --> 01:02:36,850
terrorists so I you know I gotta wonder

1443
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:38,680
about the like I said I only saw like

1444
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:40,570
this the first two episodes last night

1445
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:42,490
so I can't really say too much

1446
01:02:47,349 --> 01:02:45,170
but okay anyway we were going back into

1447
01:02:50,170 --> 01:02:47,359
this computer back in the 40s and 50s

1448
01:02:52,030 --> 01:02:50,180
and 60s and the only reason I mentioned

1449
01:02:54,010 --> 01:02:52,040
it was because once you talk about

1450
01:02:56,260 --> 01:02:54,020
computer to spy on other people or

1451
01:02:59,080 --> 01:02:56,270
agencies I think a person of interest

1452
01:03:00,670 --> 01:02:59,090
which is the NIP attend computer right

1453
01:03:02,290 --> 01:03:00,680
it reminds me of a joke if you feed a

1454
01:03:04,570 --> 01:03:02,300
computer like that the question is to

1455
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:04,580
regard and the answer comes back there

1456
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:08,450
is now well as we depend more and more

1457
01:03:12,730 --> 01:03:10,880
on computers I could think that the

1458
01:03:16,420 --> 01:03:12,740
world that exists where the

1459
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corporation's take over in 2070 whatever

1460
01:03:22,990 --> 01:03:19,310
in continuum I don't see that being far

1461
01:03:25,750 --> 01:03:23,000
off the track it sounds frighteningly

1462
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:25,760
real you know what's frankly real here

1463
01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:28,130
folks to even say frightening lis three

1464
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:29,510
times fast backwards

1465
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we have Canon Thomas Peres politics and

1466
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more the Kennedy assassination UFOs with

1467
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gene and Chris and that means you're in

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grab a pencil and jot down this special

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para cast calm Wow talking about

1572
01:08:16,820 --> 01:08:14,520
synchronicities you know all these

1573
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connections and we have to take a look

1574
01:08:21,470 --> 01:08:20,219
now at one core fact which is let's get

1575
01:08:22,849 --> 01:08:21,480
to the Kennedy assassination because

1576
01:08:25,490 --> 01:08:22,859
there's so many other subjects talk

1577
01:08:27,769 --> 01:08:25,500
about with the Kennedy assassination are

1578
01:08:29,959 --> 01:08:27,779
we suggesting Ken Thomas that the

1579
01:08:33,170 --> 01:08:29,969
military or intelligence people were

1580
01:08:36,559 --> 01:08:33,180
involved in his death was it organized

1581
01:08:38,180 --> 01:08:36,569
crime was it all of the above well yeah

1582
01:08:39,470 --> 01:08:38,190
the organized crime people those are

1583
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:39,480
just the people you hire to pull the

1584
01:08:44,660 --> 01:08:42,480
triggers but yeah and it seems to be

1585
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:44,670
pretty clear that it's a it's a product

1586
01:08:50,870 --> 01:08:47,489
of the military-industrial establishment

1587
01:08:53,660 --> 01:08:50,880
that Kennedy had offended in any number

1588
01:08:56,660 --> 01:08:53,670
of ways primarily trying to de-escalate

1589
01:08:58,130 --> 01:08:56,670
the war in Vietnam which meant which was

1590
01:09:00,140 --> 01:08:58,140
a real threat to defense contract

1591
01:09:00,530 --> 01:09:00,150
there's at the time so that had to be

1592
01:09:02,930 --> 01:09:00,540
stopped

1593
01:09:04,490 --> 01:09:02,940
it also shows Johnson being implicated

1594
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:04,500
because what's one of the first things

1595
01:09:12,620 --> 01:09:06,690
Johnson did when he took over he

1596
01:09:14,780 --> 01:09:12,630
escalated the war in Vietnam right so he

1597
01:09:18,829 --> 01:09:14,790
made up there whatever Kennedy did wrong

1598
01:09:20,599 --> 01:09:18,839
that's right that's right and at the

1599
01:09:24,170 --> 01:09:20,609
time of course you know Johnson's known

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01:09:25,550 --> 01:09:24,180
as a great reformer in the in the world

1601
01:09:30,050 --> 01:09:25,560
of civil rights you know he's the one

1602
01:09:32,180 --> 01:09:30,060
that says helps African Americans to be

1603
01:09:33,620 --> 01:09:32,190
treated better as citizens and and and

1604
01:09:35,450 --> 01:09:33,630
and all that of course was all you know

1605
01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:35,460
that had been initiated by Kennedy and

1606
01:09:40,670 --> 01:09:37,440
because he did no modern in such a way

1607
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:40,680
that was such an initiative that that

1608
01:09:45,530 --> 01:09:42,960
provided that helped the whole civil

1609
01:09:49,940 --> 01:09:45,540
rights movement to happen and Johnson

1610
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was kind of I wouldn't say orchestrating

1611
01:09:53,150 --> 01:09:51,359
in there engineering but he was big he

1612
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was the beneficiary of that kind of

1613
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social reform so people who were not

1614
01:09:59,720 --> 01:09:56,790
inclined to think in terms of

1615
01:10:02,450 --> 01:09:59,730
conspiracies of who shot who kind of

1616
01:10:03,710 --> 01:10:02,460
look of get Johnson as a as a liberal

1617
01:10:06,170 --> 01:10:03,720
hero

1618
01:10:08,390 --> 01:10:06,180
in history yes but he was also a

1619
01:10:10,580 --> 01:10:08,400
political operator in the first degree

1620
01:10:13,580 --> 01:10:10,590
he knew where all the bodies were buried

1621
01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:13,590
I used that to leverage his influence on

1622
01:10:17,570 --> 01:10:16,080
them right yeah I mean I'm not

1623
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:17,580
suggesting that I believe that Johnson

1624
01:10:21,230 --> 01:10:18,960
was some kind of liberal hero I do

1625
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:21,240
believe that he had his connections to

1626
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:24,210
the assassination and I think the

1627
01:10:27,260 --> 01:10:25,530
advances that blacks have made in this

1628
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:27,270
country have more do with Kennedy's

1629
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:30,930
martyrdoms and Johnson's bureaucratic

1630
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:35,010
finesse Johnson and my great-aunt dated

1631
01:10:38,750 --> 01:10:35,730
for a while

1632
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my great aunt Helen Gahagan who ran

1633
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:40,830
against Richard Nixon in 1954 the Senate

1634
01:10:46,490 --> 01:10:43,110
seat of California and he was Nixon

1635
01:10:49,700 --> 01:10:46,500
demonized her as pink down to her

1636
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underwear the pink lady she was also the

1637
01:10:59,810 --> 01:10:52,350
immortal goddess in the movie she in the

1638
01:11:02,450 --> 01:10:59,820
nineteen thirties okay but you know

1639
01:11:06,590 --> 01:11:02,460
let's get back to this here okay so we

1640
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know that we have here something that

1641
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more and more people realize should be

1642
01:11:12,530 --> 01:11:10,590
investigated but with the passage of

1643
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time don't you think it's just gonna

1644
01:11:20,090 --> 01:11:15,390
fade from our consciousness except for a

1645
01:11:21,890 --> 01:11:20,100
few of us conspiracy theory buffs well

1646
01:11:24,770 --> 01:11:21,900
this is the big year right this is the

1647
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50th anniversary and if we can't get

1648
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anything done this year then no but but

1649
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:31,100
you know striving after the absolute

1650
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answer to it all maybe isn't the best

1651
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thing it was a great movement again

1652
01:11:39,050 --> 01:11:36,990
after Oliver Stone's movie and many

1653
01:11:40,940 --> 01:11:39,060
files were released we learned many many

1654
01:11:45,290 --> 01:11:40,950
things there's just many many more to

1655
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:45,300
learn so I I do know that they you know

1656
01:11:54,020 --> 01:11:50,250
the group that needs to you need to pay

1657
01:11:56,270 --> 01:11:54,030
attention to this Committee on political

1658
01:11:58,430 --> 01:11:56,280
assassinations John's judges groups in

1659
01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:58,440
Washington DC there is some kind of

1660
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:00,000
clamp down that they expect to do in

1661
01:12:06,890 --> 01:12:03,930
Dallas they don't want protests in the

1662
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:06,900
kind of protests that Coppola has done

1663
01:12:12,380 --> 01:12:08,850
you know for the last couple of decades

1664
01:12:14,090 --> 01:12:12,390
and John judge who runs the group is I

1665
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:14,100
know he's in discussions with the mayor

1666
01:12:17,330 --> 01:12:16,530
there to see what he can do about it but

1667
01:12:20,060 --> 01:12:17,340
there's all

1668
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:20,070
a problem and it's but you know in

1669
01:12:25,339 --> 01:12:22,800
November this year I will be there it

1670
01:12:31,609 --> 01:12:25,349
will be probably the biggest observance

1671
01:12:33,979 --> 01:12:31,619
of the assassination ever and it

1672
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:33,989
behooves everybody out there who are

1673
01:12:38,930 --> 01:12:35,610
you're an armchair conspiracy guy

1674
01:12:41,959 --> 01:12:38,940
whether you you know disappointed and

1675
01:12:43,970 --> 01:12:41,969
depress the veteran of the Camelot years

1676
01:12:46,189 --> 01:12:43,980
or whatever everybody needs to converge

1677
01:12:48,859 --> 01:12:46,199
and Allyson in November and make sure

1678
01:12:50,540 --> 01:12:48,869
that they don't turn it into the kind of

1679
01:12:51,890 --> 01:12:50,550
whitewash that they typically want to do

1680
01:12:52,820 --> 01:12:51,900
but it does remind we know there are two

1681
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:52,830
movies on the Kennedy assassination

1682
01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:54,810
planned right now right

1683
01:13:02,359 --> 01:12:58,170
there's parkland which is some kind of

1684
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:02,369
Tom Hanks movie that takes place in the

1685
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:04,170
hospital after Kennedy was assassinated

1686
01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:06,810
and then there's one called Dallas and

1687
01:13:12,649 --> 01:13:09,360
wonderland that is co-written by my good

1688
01:13:14,060 --> 01:13:12,659
friend and publisher Adam Parfrey that

1689
01:13:15,620 --> 01:13:14,070
you know it's obviously going to take a

1690
01:13:17,570 --> 01:13:15,630
look at much more serious issues than

1691
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:17,580
anything that's how I'm Hanks so they're

1692
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:19,290
going to at least two but the whole

1693
01:13:22,459 --> 01:13:20,400
consciousness about the Kennedy

1694
01:13:25,310 --> 01:13:22,469
assassination this is the year this is

1695
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:25,320
the year that you know you got to talk

1696
01:13:32,959 --> 01:13:30,050
it up and and my dog barks right now

1697
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:32,969
that's funny our neighbors here have six

1698
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dogs and sometimes they get involved in

1699
01:13:39,859 --> 01:13:37,679
the course especially we get into

1700
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something really deep and dirty with the

1701
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questions here in the para cast they act

1702
01:13:45,919 --> 01:13:44,099
out then we have another neighbor to the

1703
01:13:52,250 --> 01:13:45,929
other side of us here they have five

1704
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:52,260
dogs oh my god mmm maybe somebody's

1705
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sneaking around outside you calm down a

1706
01:13:57,070 --> 01:13:55,980
dog you better check that you know you

1707
01:13:59,450 --> 01:13:57,080
never know what's going on out there

1708
01:14:00,680 --> 01:13:59,460
maybe they're coming to that save your

1709
01:14:02,689 --> 01:14:00,690
scene question I'm gonna ask you with

1710
01:14:04,879 --> 01:14:02,699
all the conspiracies going around and

1711
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:04,889
all the strange things happening and

1712
01:14:08,450 --> 01:14:06,330
you've been talking about this stuff for

1713
01:14:09,890 --> 01:14:08,460
years and you're still here I assume you

1714
01:14:13,310 --> 01:14:09,900
are not a doppelgänger you're the

1715
01:14:15,410 --> 01:14:13,320
original Ken Thomas so that they're not

1716
01:14:17,450 --> 01:14:15,420
going after you or do they consider you

1717
01:14:21,850 --> 01:14:17,460
well this guy's just a crazy person so

1718
01:14:28,669 --> 01:14:25,370
kind of kind of as they say less than

1719
01:14:30,430 --> 01:14:28,679
serious well I co-wrote the octopus with

1720
01:14:33,010 --> 01:14:30,440
Jim Keith

1721
01:14:33,790 --> 01:14:33,020
did you ever talk to Keith but he's not

1722
01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:33,800
around anymore

1723
01:14:37,569 --> 01:14:35,510
yeah I did he interviewed the black

1724
01:14:40,030 --> 01:14:37,579
helicopters over America and he refused

1725
01:14:45,129 --> 01:14:40,040
to meet with me in anywhere but a

1726
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Safeway parking lot he was he was super

1727
01:14:49,870 --> 01:14:47,599
paranoid and yet they got to him also

1728
01:14:51,700 --> 01:14:49,880
that I have had doppelgangers people

1729
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:51,710
send me photographs I gotta figure one

1730
01:14:54,780 --> 01:14:53,090
on the bullet ball right now is some

1731
01:14:57,310 --> 01:14:54,790
guy's been around with a Kent Thomas

1732
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nametag at one of the Laughlin

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conferences kind of looks a little bit

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like me but he's not me and a yeah I've

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have been part of a community of people

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that are kind of under the radar you

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know there isn't there is a level of

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interest in Para politics in the

1739
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entertainment world that shields the

1740
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real researchers underneath and that's

1741
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the Jesse Ventura's and the Alex Joneses

1742
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and those kind of people but then there

1743
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are people like Jim Keith and me

1744
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Skyler Alfred games another good one in

1745
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parfaits but the Atari is Rob sterling

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and attract in my new book positive peer

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table politics I have a section called

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five questions of five researchers and

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that has acharya s who has been an

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activist in a much more dangerous field

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of religious culture we had her on the

1752
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power cast early on and we even had

1753
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Jesse Ventura on I guess a year and a

1754
01:15:57,129 --> 01:15:55,790
half ago know I've now I've challenged

1755
01:16:00,700 --> 01:15:57,139
in this new book of mine I've challenged

1756
01:16:03,819 --> 01:16:00,710
Jesse Ventura to to a Smackdown I said

1757
01:16:07,839 --> 01:16:03,829
to go into the ring with me and and if

1758
01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:07,849
he accepts my plan is to you've talked

1759
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:10,880
to Adam go rightly we sure know yes yeah

1760
01:16:14,770 --> 01:16:12,530
right so he's he's like into this

1761
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wrestling this you know with the masks

1762
01:16:18,370 --> 01:16:16,250
and stuff I want to put a mask on him so

1763
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if Jesse Ventura pays attention to me it

1764
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takes me up on this idea of getting into

1765
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the ring for Smackdown I'm gonna dress

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up go rightly and spend a minimum for

1767
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this is you can imagine ladies and

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gentlemen we've got so much more with

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Ken Thomas and gene and Chris you're in

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yes conspiracy theories JFK UFOs all

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that sort of stuff and then Ken Thomas

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talking about the people who have been

1875
01:21:19,109 --> 01:21:16,329
on the power cast over the years Adam go

1876
01:21:22,169 --> 01:21:19,119
rightly Jesse Ventura all these people

1877
01:21:24,209 --> 01:21:22,179
Chris did a scene or a session for Jesse

1878
01:21:26,220 --> 01:21:24,219
Ventura and they cut out most of the

1879
01:21:30,959 --> 01:21:26,230
show at least most of Chris's

1880
01:21:32,729 --> 01:21:30,969
participation the whole thing I mean it

1881
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:32,739
was a show yeah

1882
01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:35,170
the show is about Jesse Ventura and his

1883
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:37,510
Porsche and the places he gets to go and

1884
01:21:44,129 --> 01:21:40,210
his celebrity helpers like Oliver

1885
01:21:45,959 --> 01:21:44,139
Stone's son and his own son and and he's

1886
01:21:47,939 --> 01:21:45,969
just not serious and there was and there

1887
01:21:50,129 --> 01:21:47,949
he did one episode with David Icke who

1888
01:21:53,339 --> 01:21:50,139
you may or may not like but his whole

1889
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:53,349
approach was just to sit down he busted

1890
01:21:57,839 --> 01:21:56,050
him backstage at one of Ike's gigs just

1891
01:22:00,479 --> 01:21:57,849
sat there crossed his arms and said show

1892
01:22:02,390 --> 01:22:00,489
me a reptile and Ike is like well you

1893
01:22:04,649 --> 01:22:02,400
know I've written like hawks on you know

1894
01:22:07,109 --> 01:22:04,659
15 20 books and I've got a lot more

1895
01:22:09,839 --> 01:22:07,119
saving than just that but you know

1896
01:22:12,299 --> 01:22:09,849
Ventura is just you know it's just a

1897
01:22:14,189 --> 01:22:12,309
kind of a macho guy who used to be one

1898
01:22:16,140 --> 01:22:14,199
of those quote professional wrestlers it

1899
01:22:17,759 --> 01:22:16,150
also used to be a politician there

1900
01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:17,769
aren't too many other kinds of liars out

1901
01:22:26,759 --> 01:22:22,840
there and I think he is a bit of like

1902
01:22:28,290 --> 01:22:26,769
that's for sure right yeah I see people

1903
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:28,300
I know on the show and I understand that

1904
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:30,010
they're trying to do to him what are you

1905
01:22:33,839 --> 01:22:31,570
doing to them you know either trying to

1906
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:33,849
glom on to his fame and get some

1907
01:22:39,779 --> 01:22:37,449
attention to what they're doing and you

1908
01:22:41,850 --> 01:22:39,789
know that some facetime I guess is

1909
01:22:44,810 --> 01:22:41,860
better than none at all but somebody

1910
01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:44,820
needs to stand up and say oh look Jesse

1911
01:22:50,850 --> 01:22:48,400
there been people like me and Jim Keith

1912
01:22:53,580 --> 01:22:50,860
and James are people that are in my new

1913
01:22:55,319 --> 01:22:53,590
book acharya Rob sterling Joan d'Arc you

1914
01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:55,329
know who started paranoia Magazine

1915
01:22:59,250 --> 01:22:58,000
extraordinary woman say Jonathan Bank

1916
01:23:02,669 --> 01:22:59,260
and who were the greatest of

1917
01:23:05,549 --> 01:23:02,679
conspiracies of all times book I found

1918
01:23:08,279 --> 01:23:05,559
it very almost a little disconcerting

1919
01:23:10,109 --> 01:23:08,289
that jerry smith who helped put together

1920
01:23:11,490 --> 01:23:10,119
one of their first programs on whether

1921
01:23:14,129 --> 01:23:11,500
warfare and HAARP

1922
01:23:16,710 --> 01:23:14,139
died I think just within days of the

1923
01:23:18,450 --> 01:23:16,720
episode airing that's absolutely right

1924
01:23:20,430 --> 01:23:18,460
that's also in my book my tribute to

1925
01:23:23,550 --> 01:23:20,440
Jerry Smith is there's a whole chapter

1926
01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:23,560
on that in the book there it is kind of

1927
01:23:27,660 --> 01:23:26,110
interesting isn't it yeah yeah so I mean

1928
01:23:29,250 --> 01:23:27,670
the thing is you can't you can't trust

1929
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:29,260
anything that comes close to the

1930
01:23:33,390 --> 01:23:32,080
mainstream media is they're all over

1931
01:23:35,850 --> 01:23:33,400
that that's some kind of manipulation

1932
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:35,860
from the intelligence world you know I'm

1933
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:39,520
sure the signature is far that let's

1934
01:23:44,790 --> 01:23:41,650
talk about that for a minute Ken

1935
01:23:47,340 --> 01:23:44,800
I've heard rumblings over the years that

1936
01:23:49,950 --> 01:23:47,350
The History Channel is a is you know

1937
01:23:53,130 --> 01:23:49,960
really closely tied in to the

1938
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:53,140
intelligence agents agencies which shall

1939
01:23:59,100 --> 01:23:55,690
remain nameless but what sort of

1940
01:24:01,260 --> 01:23:59,110
research have you done looking at how

1941
01:24:03,810 --> 01:24:01,270
much the media is manipulated by the

1942
01:24:05,340 --> 01:24:03,820
intelligence world is there do you think

1943
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:05,350
they're smoking gun evidence to suggest

1944
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:08,770
that or do we have any any sort of I

1945
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:13,090
don't know facts or figures or data yeah

1946
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:15,970
well like again all of this is kind of

1947
01:24:22,170 --> 01:24:19,570
working off my research in JFK and Maury

1948
01:24:24,900 --> 01:24:22,180
island and examples like the route 66

1949
01:24:26,940 --> 01:24:24,910
show that I just went over that you can

1950
01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:26,950
actually see the assassination being

1951
01:24:30,480 --> 01:24:28,960
planned on television you know a year

1952
01:24:32,430 --> 01:24:30,490
before it happens and giving you every

1953
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:32,440
every cue what we talked about before

1954
01:24:39,150 --> 01:24:35,650
the lone gunman episode you know that

1955
01:24:42,780 --> 01:24:39,160
one predicted 9/11 not using the the

1956
01:24:44,910 --> 01:24:42,790
promise software so yeah I think unless

1957
01:24:46,590 --> 01:24:44,920
you want to mystify this idea of

1958
01:24:48,300 --> 01:24:46,600
synchronicity and coincidences that

1959
01:24:50,730 --> 01:24:48,310
there's you know there's just some kind

1960
01:24:53,220 --> 01:24:50,740
of mystical thing that connects all

1961
01:24:55,650 --> 01:24:53,230
these facts you got it eventually you

1962
01:24:57,090 --> 01:24:55,660
know deal with the idea that that's

1963
01:24:59,430 --> 01:24:57,100
happening for a reason and that the

1964
01:25:01,410 --> 01:24:59,440
intelligence community whatever it is

1965
01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:01,420
they're Hollywood script writers other

1966
01:25:05,820 --> 01:25:03,040
people are in there working with

1967
01:25:08,010 --> 01:25:05,830
Hollywood script writers and in many

1968
01:25:09,740 --> 01:25:08,020
case and if we know that of course I

1969
01:25:12,270 --> 01:25:09,750
think it's important for us divided

1970
01:25:14,340 --> 01:25:12,280
monitor these these shows and see what

1971
01:25:17,070 --> 01:25:14,350
they're you know what they want us to

1972
01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:17,080
think and and and maybe we'll find out

1973
01:25:21,300 --> 01:25:19,120
some of the things that they expect to

1974
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:21,310
do so you'd suggest here there's a

1975
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:23,650
deliberate effort to use these TV shows

1976
01:25:28,140 --> 01:25:25,930
and movies to manipulate our thoughts

1977
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:28,150
about different issues you know there's

1978
01:25:30,330 --> 01:25:29,530
probably some sort of algorithm you

1979
01:25:33,660 --> 01:25:30,340
could do

1980
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:33,670
but it's also you know working it out

1981
01:25:36,990 --> 01:25:35,170
themselves you know I mean somebody's

1982
01:25:38,459 --> 01:25:37,000
got a plan the assassination right so

1983
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:38,469
one good way to do that is to write it

1984
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:42,610
up in a script you know and which seems

1985
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:44,080
to be what has happened in these great

1986
01:25:49,020 --> 01:25:46,570
54 episodes or something like that well

1987
01:25:50,459 --> 01:25:49,030
you can also assume here that what

1988
01:25:52,050 --> 01:25:50,469
they're trying to do is dumb down the

1989
01:25:54,660 --> 01:25:52,060
audience I think some of these reality

1990
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:54,670
shows are just absolutely totally dumb

1991
01:26:03,030 --> 01:25:58,320
well yeah that's television told us roll

1992
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:03,040
keep people stupid opiate of the masses

1993
01:26:06,330 --> 01:26:04,570
but you know I'll tell you what though

1994
01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:06,340
it is kind of interesting to see things

1995
01:26:12,359 --> 01:26:08,710
like the debate between Piers Morgan and

1996
01:26:15,209 --> 01:26:12,369
Alex Jones and also to see that CNN

1997
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:15,219
getting so far from any notion of being

1998
01:26:19,169 --> 01:26:17,440
a news organization to just being the

1999
01:26:22,229 --> 01:26:19,179
people that get on there to moralize

2000
01:26:24,660 --> 01:26:22,239
about gun control well of course you

2001
01:26:26,939 --> 01:26:24,670
have to understand too that that's just

2002
01:26:29,209 --> 01:26:26,949
the way things are with all new stations

2003
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:29,219
now of course Fox News is conservative

2004
01:26:34,410 --> 01:26:32,170
MSNBC has the liberal bent so if you

2005
01:26:37,649 --> 01:26:34,420
don't take a stand and you don't express

2006
01:26:40,260 --> 01:26:37,659
an opinion if you just try to cover the

2007
01:26:42,540 --> 01:26:40,270
news without basically embellishment

2008
01:26:44,459 --> 01:26:42,550
nobody watches right yeah they have to

2009
01:26:46,740 --> 01:26:44,469
exaggerate it and make it emotional and

2010
01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:46,750
of course if you try to take a strategy

2011
01:26:50,189 --> 01:26:48,400
and say oh well I'll watch both of them

2012
01:26:51,750 --> 01:26:50,199
I'll watch Fox and I want to MSNBC and

2013
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:51,760
then I'll get the full picture then of

2014
01:26:53,609 --> 01:26:52,570
course you're watching so much

2015
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:53,619
television it's you've been so

2016
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:55,330
brainwashed by the corporate dinner

2017
01:27:00,450 --> 01:26:58,090
maybe it doesn't really matter anymore I

2018
01:27:02,220 --> 01:27:00,460
have two large corporations which are

2019
01:27:04,050 --> 01:27:02,230
trying to sell ads and they don't care

2020
01:27:05,129 --> 01:27:04,060
what kind of prime view is involved

2021
01:27:07,260 --> 01:27:05,139
they're just looking to sell answer

2022
01:27:10,890 --> 01:27:07,270
let's just get into more of the things

2023
01:27:12,660 --> 01:27:10,900
that are just really impacting public

2024
01:27:14,850 --> 01:27:12,670
opinion okay so the Kennedy

2025
01:27:17,220 --> 01:27:14,860
assassination is for all and everyone

2026
01:27:19,500 --> 01:27:17,230
the biggest conspiracy theory of our

2027
01:27:21,780 --> 01:27:19,510
time what might have really happened is

2028
01:27:26,669 --> 01:27:21,790
there a number two with a bullet what

2029
01:27:32,189 --> 01:27:26,679
would you say the second most important

2030
01:27:35,550 --> 01:27:32,199
or significant very interesting and my

2031
01:27:38,319 --> 01:27:35,560
own writing has been about the promise

2032
01:27:40,270 --> 01:27:38,329
software and the effect of you know

2033
01:27:42,750 --> 01:27:40,280
and how they kind of shoehorned in this

2034
01:27:45,850 --> 01:27:42,760
computer system that we have now the

2035
01:27:47,319 --> 01:27:45,860
high tech shanghaiing of all human

2036
01:27:49,959 --> 01:27:47,329
communication that's kind of interesting

2037
01:27:51,250 --> 01:27:49,969
to me but really a purpose when I

2038
01:27:55,890 --> 01:27:51,260
started steam shovel press was the

2039
01:27:58,270 --> 01:27:55,900
purpose was to to look at it all to find

2040
01:28:00,040 --> 01:27:58,280
conspiracy researchers you know working

2041
01:28:02,350 --> 01:28:00,050
on on every single aspect of it because

2042
01:28:04,629 --> 01:28:02,360
the I mean the only reason to never turn

2043
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:04,639
away because you're exhausted not

2044
01:28:09,580 --> 01:28:07,610
because it's it isn't interesting so I

2045
01:28:11,589 --> 01:28:09,590
would say personally for me it's the

2046
01:28:15,010 --> 01:28:11,599
problem of software this conspiracy

2047
01:28:16,810 --> 01:28:15,020
number to JFK and promise software but

2048
01:28:19,209 --> 01:28:16,820
then of course the UFO cover-up but you

2049
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:19,219
know when you talk about UFO talking

2050
01:28:25,780 --> 01:28:24,050
about more than five decades of cover-up

2051
01:28:29,799 --> 01:28:25,790
of a phenomenon that we all know exists

2052
01:28:31,419 --> 01:28:29,809
that we all know that the government has

2053
01:28:34,419 --> 01:28:31,429
a lot more information and today I want

2054
01:28:37,839 --> 01:28:34,429
to let loose up maybe that would be it

2055
01:28:40,750 --> 01:28:37,849
yes JFK promise off well I was really

2056
01:28:42,729 --> 01:28:40,760
just ranting so I'm I think we're

2057
01:28:44,649 --> 01:28:42,739
looking for number two and you're

2058
01:28:47,770 --> 01:28:44,659
talking about that particular software

2059
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:47,780
thing the promise software right on the

2060
01:28:52,810 --> 01:28:51,170
whole ends law case yeah yeah which

2061
01:28:55,540 --> 01:28:52,820
which of course grows out of the October

2062
01:28:59,470 --> 01:28:55,550
Surprise of the eighth and the beginning

2063
01:29:00,760 --> 01:28:59,480
of the Reagan years so if I was to list

2064
01:29:03,370 --> 01:29:00,770
what I think are the most important

2065
01:29:04,709 --> 01:29:03,380
conspiracies in history JFK would come

2066
01:29:07,780 --> 01:29:04,719
first

2067
01:29:10,390 --> 01:29:07,790
UFOs I guess went from second and then

2068
01:29:13,390 --> 01:29:10,400
the promise software okay but again my

2069
01:29:15,580 --> 01:29:13,400
the current book popular pair of

2070
01:29:16,629 --> 01:29:15,590
politics is the the latest in the

2071
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:16,639
popular series

2072
01:29:22,390 --> 01:29:18,530
I had one called popular alienation

2073
01:29:25,270 --> 01:29:22,400
another one called popular paranoia

2074
01:29:29,319 --> 01:29:25,280
and this whole notion that I put out

2075
01:29:30,729 --> 01:29:29,329
there as a kind of a counter to being

2076
01:29:32,500 --> 01:29:30,739
dismissed as some crazy conspiracy

2077
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:32,510
theorist is I don't even call what I do

2078
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:34,489
conspiracy theory I call it para

2079
01:29:41,589 --> 01:29:38,570
politics and that is the whole social

2080
01:29:45,790 --> 01:29:41,599
aspect of politics that goes on that the

2081
01:29:47,890 --> 01:29:45,800
prefix paranoia para means rolling

2082
01:29:50,319 --> 01:29:47,900
alongside and so what's actually going

2083
01:29:51,790 --> 01:29:50,329
on throughout the community throughout

2084
01:29:53,709 --> 01:29:51,800
the country of all

2085
01:29:55,299 --> 01:29:53,719
little researchers and that's just

2086
01:29:57,790 --> 01:29:55,309
little researchers but all the people

2087
01:30:01,120 --> 01:29:57,800
that basically comprise an alternate

2088
01:30:03,430 --> 01:30:01,130
history historical understanding of the

2089
01:30:04,810 --> 01:30:03,440
country then what the mainstream keeps

2090
01:30:07,510 --> 01:30:04,820
try and pushed on our thoughts because

2091
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:07,520
we're talking about may Brussels Peter

2092
01:30:14,859 --> 01:30:11,570
Dale Scott you know John George even

2093
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:14,869
Dave that Murray ah yes indeed we're

2094
01:30:20,290 --> 01:30:17,570
here to speak about parallels and angles

2095
01:30:22,689 --> 01:30:20,300
and triangles and I guess all that stuff

2096
01:30:24,729 --> 01:30:22,699
we have some parallel realities to

2097
01:30:26,979 --> 01:30:24,739
discuss right now and then we'll be back

2098
01:30:30,670 --> 01:30:26,989
with power politics and Ken Thomas with

2099
01:30:38,270 --> 01:30:30,680
gene and Chris you're in the para cast

2100
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2142
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advisors won't talk about gold IRAs

2143
01:32:27,860 --> 01:32:26,100
they've been available since nineteen

2144
01:32:29,780 --> 01:32:27,870
eighty six yet the financial industry

2145
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:29,790
won't recognize the value of gold for

2146
01:32:33,890 --> 01:32:31,290
your attire mint gold has outperformed

2147
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:33,900
paper investments yet no word about IRAs

2148
01:32:39,380 --> 01:32:35,730
if you would like to have gold for your

2149
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:39,390
retirement call 866 to 237 don't get

2150
01:32:45,290 --> 01:32:41,250
left behind by rising inflation and low

2151
01:32:51,370 --> 01:32:45,300
returns call 866 to 237 secure your

2152
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:54,470
you land in Buenos Aires then our

2153
01:32:59,479 --> 01:32:57,090
shuttle to Santa Rosa where a nicely

2154
01:33:01,970 --> 01:32:59,489
furnished cabin with all amenities Wi-Fi

2155
01:33:04,580 --> 01:33:01,980
executive food and wine and laundry

2156
01:33:07,939 --> 01:33:04,590
service awaits after a good night's

2157
01:33:11,930 --> 01:33:07,949
sleep your adventure begins you're on a

2158
01:33:14,959 --> 01:33:11,940
golden stag Safari for big game but it's

2159
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:14,969
not Africa its Argentina one on one

2160
01:33:20,870 --> 01:33:17,489
guided hunts for water buffalo cougar

2161
01:33:23,780 --> 01:33:20,880
Bighorn Rams wild boar and the biggest

2162
01:33:26,419 --> 01:33:23,790
stag deer in South America all gold

2163
01:33:33,050 --> 01:33:26,429
medal quality all the action you can

2164
01:33:35,270 --> 01:33:33,060
handle scoped food beverages hunting

2165
01:33:37,790 --> 01:33:35,280
guides ground transportation included

2166
01:33:40,580 --> 01:33:37,800
and more all more affordable than you

2167
01:33:44,540 --> 01:33:40,590
can imagine the adventure of a lifetime

2168
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:44,550
starts at golden stag safaris calm the

2169
01:33:51,380 --> 01:33:47,370
big-game hunting ranch golden stag

2170
01:33:53,150 --> 01:33:51,390
safaris Tom Kane heart and body extract

2171
01:33:54,709 --> 01:33:53,160
help with other ailments besides heart

2172
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:54,719
conditions high blood pressure clogged

2173
01:33:58,850 --> 01:33:56,850
arteries or unbalanced cholesterol it

2174
01:34:02,270 --> 01:33:58,860
did for Karen I've been using heart and

2175
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:02,280
body extract for approximately two weeks

2176
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:04,770
I've had an ear wax buildup problems for

2177
01:34:09,919 --> 01:34:07,290
many years with over-the-counter stuff

2178
01:34:12,620 --> 01:34:09,929
not working at all I had very poor

2179
01:34:14,570 --> 01:34:12,630
hearing due to this ear wax buildup well

2180
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:14,580
after 2 weeks of taking heart and body

2181
01:34:19,820 --> 01:34:17,010
extract my earwax build-up almost

2182
01:34:21,979 --> 01:34:19,830
completely cleared up but this be the

2183
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:21,989
effect of better body circulation heart

2184
01:34:26,570 --> 01:34:24,449
and body extract is an effective 100%

2185
01:34:28,130 --> 01:34:26,580
organic nutritional supplement specially

2186
01:34:31,010 --> 01:34:28,140
formulated to allow your body to heal

2187
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:31,020
itself my hearing is almost completely

2188
01:34:37,070 --> 01:34:34,800
back to normal order by calling eight

2189
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:37,080
six six two nine five five three zero

2190
01:34:43,189 --> 01:34:40,650
five or online at HB extract calm that's

2191
01:34:46,970 --> 01:34:43,199
eight six six two nine five five three

2192
01:34:49,510 --> 01:34:46,980
zero five or HB extract calm heart and

2193
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:49,520
body extract for a long and healthy life

2194
01:34:57,100 --> 01:34:52,650
hi this is nuclear physicist or jurist

2195
01:35:09,430 --> 01:35:05,860
the gold-standard a paranormal radio Ken

2196
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:09,440
Thomas joining us as we look into power

2197
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:12,650
politics conspiracies whatever so would

2198
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:15,170
we possibly want to theorize can Thomas

2199
01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:19,850
that there is perhaps one reality the

2200
01:35:24,189 --> 01:35:22,880
mainstream reality which is faked it's

2201
01:35:27,550 --> 01:35:24,199
not what's really going on then we have

2202
01:35:29,770 --> 01:35:27,560
the real actual reality what's really

2203
01:35:32,140 --> 01:35:29,780
happening in our world existing at the

2204
01:35:34,330 --> 01:35:32,150
same time we're led to believe the

2205
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:34,340
so-called conventional wisdom and when

2206
01:35:38,110 --> 01:35:35,690
we start looking into the other stuff

2207
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:38,120
we're considered well my dis crazy

2208
01:35:42,820 --> 01:35:40,010
people they're just imagining things

2209
01:35:44,290 --> 01:35:42,830
it's not really happening but it's

2210
01:35:45,790 --> 01:35:44,300
entertaining and because it's

2211
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:45,800
entertaining we don't have to take it

2212
01:35:50,650 --> 01:35:47,210
seriously we don't have to worry about

2213
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:50,660
it is that it right that's kind of yeah

2214
01:35:54,430 --> 01:35:52,489
that's kind of the maddening thing you

2215
01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:54,440
know people think you're cute you know

2216
01:35:57,430 --> 01:35:55,760
there's old conceived so if you want to

2217
01:36:00,520 --> 01:35:57,440
talk intelligently about anything you

2218
01:36:05,220 --> 01:36:00,530
know oh you know there's another

2219
01:36:09,250 --> 01:36:05,230
conspiracy theory I didn't hear that on

2220
01:36:11,979 --> 01:36:09,260
CNN so it doesn't exist yeah there is an

2221
01:36:15,970 --> 01:36:11,989
effort there is that effort now yeah I

2222
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:15,980
don't know is the real effort of course

2223
01:36:20,260 --> 01:36:18,170
of the mainstream media's justice to

2224
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:20,270
sell soap to sell things you know and

2225
01:36:24,430 --> 01:36:22,370
the only reality they want you to have

2226
01:36:25,570 --> 01:36:24,440
is that of being a consumer a passive

2227
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:25,580
consumer and they don't want you to

2228
01:36:32,650 --> 01:36:29,810
think and consume shut up and die why

2229
01:36:34,209 --> 01:36:32,660
right and you know not everybody's that

2230
01:36:38,290 --> 01:36:34,219
stupid that works for a lot of people

2231
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:38,300
but it you know the people I know who

2232
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:40,730
have always been my friends and also

2233
01:36:47,709 --> 01:36:43,610
people that I don't agree with maybe

2234
01:36:50,770 --> 01:36:47,719
most of the time you know bill Cooper is

2235
01:36:52,540 --> 01:36:50,780
a good example and you know once was I

2236
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:52,550
want to just mentioned before Charlie

2237
01:37:00,430 --> 01:36:56,170
yes Greg Bishop if logical researcher

2238
01:37:03,130 --> 01:37:00,440
just people that you know don't that are

2239
01:37:05,979 --> 01:37:03,140
dealing with actual reality you know and

2240
01:37:07,900 --> 01:37:05,989
and not the kind of preset bogus

2241
01:37:09,419 --> 01:37:07,910
left-right discussion that you see on

2242
01:37:10,919 --> 01:37:09,429
the various cable channels

2243
01:37:12,660 --> 01:37:10,929
you know that's just reality it's what

2244
01:37:19,140 --> 01:37:12,670
human beings are yeah so what we've got

2245
01:37:21,449 --> 01:37:19,150
you know a huge machine industry -

2246
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:21,459
that's trying to brainwash on us okay so

2247
01:37:25,169 --> 01:37:23,650
we got a deal it is very motion and

2248
01:37:29,790 --> 01:37:25,179
every human being has a different point

2249
01:37:32,399 --> 01:37:29,800
of view you know and the the the the

2250
01:37:33,989 --> 01:37:32,409
truth has more to do with what's coming

2251
01:37:36,949 --> 01:37:33,999
out of Lisa and particularly people who

2252
01:37:40,379 --> 01:37:36,959
are we who are impassioned researchers

2253
01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:40,389
you know who can't get emotional about

2254
01:37:43,949 --> 01:37:41,920
her somehow maybe even connected to a

2255
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:43,959
conspiracy that did them wrong you know

2256
01:37:49,350 --> 01:37:47,530
if you this is a normal person wants to

2257
01:37:51,299 --> 01:37:49,360
know really what's going on and not the

2258
01:37:53,910 --> 01:37:51,309
stupid dumb show that they want to

2259
01:37:56,969 --> 01:37:53,920
create that's just normal that's just a

2260
01:37:58,500 --> 01:37:56,979
normal way to be it's abnormal to be

2261
01:38:00,029 --> 01:37:58,510
some kind of brainwashed idiot who just

2262
01:38:02,819 --> 01:38:00,039
thinks whatever going to do is is what's

2263
01:38:05,279 --> 01:38:02,829
really going on well you know ignorance

2264
01:38:07,169 --> 01:38:05,289
is bliss and part of the control

2265
01:38:10,739 --> 01:38:07,179
mechanism in the in the culture is

2266
01:38:15,719 --> 01:38:10,749
designed to keep people dumbed down to

2267
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:15,729
keep them fixated on celebrities on you

2268
01:38:20,250 --> 01:38:18,449
know consumerism and most people really

2269
01:38:23,609 --> 01:38:20,260
especially in this day and age I think

2270
01:38:26,189 --> 01:38:23,619
are you know they're kept so busy with

2271
01:38:29,790 --> 01:38:26,199
their smartphones and their computers

2272
01:38:31,350 --> 01:38:29,800
and and you know all the distractions of

2273
01:38:34,290 --> 01:38:31,360
video games and all this stuff they

2274
01:38:37,049 --> 01:38:34,300
don't have time to even think about

2275
01:38:39,689 --> 01:38:37,059
getting themselves up to speed informed

2276
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:39,699
and in and just do the bare bones

2277
01:38:45,989 --> 01:38:43,570
research to even be in a place to break

2278
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:45,999
out of that ignorant is bliss sort of

2279
01:38:51,810 --> 01:38:50,530
you know you know rat race right boys

2280
01:38:53,429 --> 01:38:51,820
that's exactly right

2281
01:38:55,739 --> 01:38:53,439
and it's the kind of it's a tough nut to

2282
01:38:59,310 --> 01:38:55,749
crack you know my current book is is a

2283
01:39:01,080 --> 01:38:59,320
Kindle it's not really a book so it's

2284
01:39:02,819 --> 01:39:01,090
really just kind of right now only

2285
01:39:07,620 --> 01:39:02,829
something you can read online I kind of

2286
01:39:09,629 --> 01:39:07,630
I feel bad about that but you know this

2287
01:39:14,729 --> 01:39:09,639
is where you know online is where

2288
01:39:16,310 --> 01:39:14,739
everybody's headed and what what's

2289
01:39:18,929 --> 01:39:16,320
interesting about this is I've had

2290
01:39:20,580 --> 01:39:18,939
arguments basically with my publisher

2291
01:39:22,379 --> 01:39:20,590
that I don't like a lot of what's

2292
01:39:23,190 --> 01:39:22,389
happening some of which is like for

2293
01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:23,200
instance if you go

2294
01:39:30,270 --> 01:39:27,040
to amazon.com and you type in popular

2295
01:39:31,650 --> 01:39:30,280
pair of politics you will see a big ad

2296
01:39:34,020 --> 01:39:31,660
for Kindle Fires

2297
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:34,030
and different forms of Kindle and my

2298
01:39:39,990 --> 01:39:36,850
suspicion is that we are selling more

2299
01:39:41,790 --> 01:39:40,000
Kindle than we are selling copies of the

2300
01:39:46,140 --> 01:39:41,800
book I'll tell you something it's even

2301
01:39:48,420 --> 01:39:46,150
worse can the Amazon Kindle Fire is not

2302
01:39:49,890 --> 01:39:48,430
sold at a profit by Amazon this is

2303
01:39:51,810 --> 01:39:49,900
something we know in the industry in the

2304
01:39:53,460 --> 01:39:51,820
tech field they sell it for money

2305
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:53,470
there's a small profit but they sell it

2306
01:39:58,710 --> 01:39:55,930
for roughly what it cost to make it sold

2307
01:40:00,300 --> 01:39:58,720
as a loss leader as the Razr for you to

2308
01:40:02,550 --> 01:40:00,310
buy the blades they want you to buy the

2309
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:02,560
books and they use this as a mechanism

2310
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:05,530
to get involved in Amazon's ecosystem

2311
01:40:11,790 --> 01:40:08,290
because if you get basically a Kindle

2312
01:40:13,890 --> 01:40:11,800
Fire tablet it is a storefront for you

2313
01:40:15,540 --> 01:40:13,900
to buy products and services from Amazon

2314
01:40:18,150 --> 01:40:15,550
that's all it's sold for it's not like

2315
01:40:20,340 --> 01:40:18,160
you buy for example an iPad or even an

2316
01:40:24,810 --> 01:40:20,350
an Android tablet where you're buying

2317
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:24,820
something to run software play games go

2318
01:40:30,410 --> 01:40:27,370
on the web email everything else with

2319
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:30,420
Amazon it's all about buying products

2320
01:40:36,690 --> 01:40:32,770
that's yeah well that's exactly right

2321
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:36,700
now is that a conspiracy no it's just a

2322
01:40:41,550 --> 01:40:39,850
business plan it's just that particular

2323
01:40:44,130 --> 01:40:41,560
way of doing business you know so for

2324
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:44,140
example the difference being Amazon's

2325
01:40:49,110 --> 01:40:46,210
business plan is to get you to buy a lot

2326
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:49,120
of stuff apples business plan is to get

2327
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:51,010
you to buy iPads and iPhones and Macs

2328
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:52,690
and that sort of thing they're basically

2329
01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:54,850
selling the hardware and the software is

2330
01:41:01,380 --> 01:40:57,040
the accommodation to get you to buy the

2331
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:01,390
heart right well but our target across

2332
01:41:05,730 --> 01:41:03,730
the people is that there's a free Kindle

2333
01:41:06,810 --> 01:41:05,740
app that if you wanted if you want to

2334
01:41:09,090 --> 01:41:06,820
get this book and you don't have a

2335
01:41:10,710 --> 01:41:09,100
Kindle and I'm really one of the things

2336
01:41:14,190 --> 01:41:10,720
I try to avoid is to give anybody any

2337
01:41:15,570 --> 01:41:14,200
excuse to not buy the book for instance

2338
01:41:16,620 --> 01:41:15,580
there may eventually be a hard copy of

2339
01:41:17,850 --> 01:41:16,630
the book but I'll tell people that

2340
01:41:19,590 --> 01:41:17,860
because I'll say well I was like that

2341
01:41:20,820 --> 01:41:19,600
comes out yeah I'm sure we're getting a

2342
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:20,830
lot of people saying oh that's on Kindle

2343
01:41:23,970 --> 01:41:22,570
I don't have a Kindle but I you know I

2344
01:41:25,470 --> 01:41:23,980
try to stick my foot the door and say

2345
01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:25,480
well there's a free Kindle app and it'll

2346
01:41:28,440 --> 01:41:26,800
cost you anything he's one read it on

2347
01:41:31,950 --> 01:41:28,450
the computer that's right you got a

2348
01:41:34,790 --> 01:41:31,960
Kindle app for your Mac or PC for an

2349
01:41:37,959 --> 01:41:34,800
Android tablet for iPad io

2350
01:41:39,979 --> 01:41:37,969
product you know get the Kindle

2351
01:41:41,629 --> 01:41:39,989
applications who doesn't matter they can

2352
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:41,639
get your book okay we've now pushed the

2353
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:44,489
book let's get back to the theories okay

2354
01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:47,010
all right so we push the book so is

2355
01:41:52,549 --> 01:41:50,159
there any way here though to actually

2356
01:41:55,939 --> 01:41:52,559
expose anything and the reason I say

2357
01:41:57,799 --> 01:41:55,949
this here is you know once it's just a

2358
01:42:00,169 --> 01:41:57,809
group of Fringe people talking about

2359
01:42:02,990 --> 01:42:00,179
conspiracy theories everything isn't

2360
01:42:04,339 --> 01:42:03,000
what we've seen to think it is well I

2361
01:42:05,839 --> 01:42:04,349
can say all these are just bunch of

2362
01:42:08,510 --> 01:42:05,849
crazy people it's just entertainment

2363
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:08,520
don't worry about them how do you turn

2364
01:42:13,910 --> 01:42:10,770
that upside down some more people say

2365
01:42:17,020 --> 01:42:13,920
wait this is the reality and what you're

2366
01:42:21,470 --> 01:42:17,030
seeing on TV That's Entertainment

2367
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:21,480
well good question you know you don't

2368
01:42:28,910 --> 01:42:24,570
get Kennedy assassination every every

2369
01:42:30,620 --> 01:42:28,920
year do you but when you do see what's

2370
01:42:33,740 --> 01:42:30,630
something like that represents to a

2371
01:42:37,189 --> 01:42:33,750
Democratic Society and enough people see

2372
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:37,199
it you you know I don't get may see onyx

2373
01:42:44,149 --> 01:42:41,489
or anything but I think I think events

2374
01:42:47,060 --> 01:42:44,159
this year like in November among people

2375
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:47,070
converge on Dallas and and you see how

2376
01:42:52,310 --> 01:42:49,770
many people are actually out there not

2377
01:42:56,089 --> 01:42:52,320
buying the craft anymore I think that

2378
01:42:57,950 --> 01:42:56,099
could that could happen I've kind of a

2379
01:43:02,379 --> 01:42:57,960
long time ago resign myself to not

2380
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:02,389
really winning this war before I die but

2381
01:43:08,839 --> 01:43:05,610
the strategy that I have taken is and I

2382
01:43:10,250 --> 01:43:08,849
have this in my right now here in the

2383
01:43:12,350 --> 01:43:10,260
room today I've got this huge poster

2384
01:43:15,470 --> 01:43:12,360
from the disinfo con which happened in

2385
01:43:19,010 --> 01:43:15,480
the year 2000 and it's big victim is

2386
01:43:20,689 --> 01:43:19,020
fine to the others and that's what I

2387
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:20,699
always encourage people to do and it

2388
01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:24,690
doesn't matter how small their followers

2389
01:43:29,689 --> 01:43:27,110
are how few Facebook readers they have

2390
01:43:31,939 --> 01:43:29,699
what matters is the content of their

2391
01:43:33,799 --> 01:43:31,949
research and they need to be connected

2392
01:43:37,939 --> 01:43:33,809
and community and talking to each other

2393
01:43:42,109 --> 01:43:37,949
in in real ways and not just Facebook

2394
01:43:43,459 --> 01:43:42,119
boys and you know just creating just

2395
01:43:46,250 --> 01:43:43,469
trying to raise the intelligence level

2396
01:43:47,540 --> 01:43:46,260
of daily discussion I mean that's my

2397
01:43:48,710 --> 01:43:47,550
ambition now I don't want to take over

2398
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:48,720
the world but I do you know

2399
01:43:53,390 --> 01:43:51,330
I'm trying to encourage the pair

2400
01:43:54,830 --> 01:43:53,400
political community or the the outside

2401
01:43:56,900 --> 01:43:54,840
community to pay attention a pair of

2402
01:43:59,840 --> 01:43:56,910
political community just for the sake of

2403
01:44:01,340 --> 01:43:59,850
improving their own intelligence so

2404
01:44:04,220 --> 01:44:01,350
you'd say it's largely a matter though

2405
01:44:07,220 --> 01:44:04,230
of not believing everything you hear

2406
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:07,230
being skeptical and at least in this

2407
01:44:11,870 --> 01:44:09,810
case wanting to look into other

2408
01:44:13,700 --> 01:44:11,880
possibilities that may be more true

2409
01:44:16,940 --> 01:44:13,710
let's go into the theories themselves

2410
01:44:19,190 --> 01:44:16,950
rather than the abstracts okay so we

2411
01:44:20,900 --> 01:44:19,200
obviously have the theories that Alex

2412
01:44:24,110 --> 01:44:20,910
Jones does and I should mention we're on

2413
01:44:28,190 --> 01:44:24,120
the same network as Alex Jones Oh shame

2414
01:44:30,050 --> 01:44:28,200
on you no actually I like Alex Jones and

2415
01:44:34,130 --> 01:44:30,060
I've been a follower of Alex Jones for

2416
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:34,140
many years you know he's in a waking

2417
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:36,210
life ever seen that animated movie

2418
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:38,370
I know recalling though I have to tell

2419
01:44:43,070 --> 01:44:41,370
you yeah sure good yeah well this was

2420
01:44:44,990 --> 01:44:43,080
this was done when he was still just

2421
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driving driving around Austin with the

2422
01:44:48,890 --> 01:44:46,590
megaphone you know and he really was

2423
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kind of grassroots nice to everybody

2424
01:44:53,420 --> 01:44:50,790
yeah one of the things I don't

2425
01:44:55,460 --> 01:44:53,430
understand though I mean he was he's one

2426
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:55,470
of our Jesse Ventura's informers right

2427
01:44:58,880 --> 01:44:57,570
Jesse Ventura comes out to him and and

2428
01:45:02,080 --> 01:44:58,890
he tells him where to go to find these

2429
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:02,090
people and in one particular show holy

2430
01:45:06,620 --> 01:45:05,010
Ventura went out sure we were talking

2431
01:45:09,170 --> 01:45:06,630
about before and just totally trashed

2432
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:09,180
David Icke and yeah David Icke goes on

2433
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:10,890
Alex Jones a show and they're like the

2434
01:45:16,490 --> 01:45:14,970
best buddies I will try to explain that

2435
01:45:18,350 --> 01:45:16,500
folks except to explain we have Ken

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Thomas joining gene and Chris you're in

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2488
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:50,090
welcome back to the para cast the gold

2489
01:48:02,090 --> 01:47:54,410
standard of paranormal radio and now

2490
01:48:04,580 --> 01:48:02,100
here's Jane Steinberg with gene and

2491
01:48:07,700 --> 01:48:04,590
Chris the final four segments of our

2492
01:48:09,290 --> 01:48:07,710
visit with Ken Thomas exploring para

2493
01:48:12,140 --> 01:48:09,300
politics but let's look at some of those

2494
01:48:13,790 --> 01:48:12,150
other mysteries of our time is there any

2495
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:13,800
reason we're gonna hit this again

2496
01:48:19,940 --> 01:48:15,930
especially now because we have the tenth

2497
01:48:22,490 --> 01:48:19,950
anniversary of 9/11 just a year and a

2498
01:48:25,340 --> 01:48:22,500
half ago so is there any reason why we

2499
01:48:26,750 --> 01:48:25,350
should consider 9/11 to be more than

2500
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:26,760
what they say it is

2501
01:48:31,850 --> 01:48:30,570
oh they're apply of reasons 9/11 now

2502
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:31,860
let's do the turn off here

2503
01:48:36,350 --> 01:48:34,770
Kennedy assassination switch off UFO

2504
01:48:38,450 --> 01:48:36,360
mystery switch off we'll get back to

2505
01:48:40,100 --> 01:48:38,460
that probably on our next episode of the

2506
01:48:44,230 --> 01:48:40,110
power cast okay

2507
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:44,240
9/11 I one time John judge and I went

2508
01:48:48,230 --> 01:48:46,770
John judge and Lynn Bracken who wrote

2509
01:48:50,030 --> 01:48:48,240
the shadow government and I went to this

2510
01:48:51,590 --> 01:48:50,040
hotel that was right across from the

2511
01:48:53,180 --> 01:48:51,600
Pentagon right across from where it

2512
01:48:57,410 --> 01:48:53,190
happened and we talked to the people

2513
01:49:00,260 --> 01:48:57,420
there they all saw a plane collided to

2514
01:49:02,540 --> 01:49:00,270
the Pentagon so that a whole theory that

2515
01:49:04,700 --> 01:49:02,550
that never happened is it doesn't really

2516
01:49:06,620 --> 01:49:04,710
hold a lot of water to me but the only

2517
01:49:08,180 --> 01:49:06,630
photographic evidence we have of that

2518
01:49:09,530 --> 01:49:08,190
major event is the series of still

2519
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:09,540
photographs that were taken from a Cisco

2520
01:49:12,770 --> 01:49:11,250
station in all the people we talked to

2521
01:49:15,260 --> 01:49:12,780
in this hotel said there's all these

2522
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:15,270
hotel cameras that were to pick

2523
01:49:19,700 --> 01:49:16,290
something up all of which was

2524
01:49:22,910 --> 01:49:19,710
confiscated by FBI people so there's a

2525
01:49:24,170 --> 01:49:22,920
cover-up going on there too so there's

2526
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:24,180
no way in the world that were anywhere

2527
01:49:27,860 --> 01:49:25,410
close to really understanding what

2528
01:49:29,710 --> 01:49:27,870
happened to 9/11 the impact of that is

2529
01:49:33,050 --> 01:49:29,720
going to continue for a long time

2530
01:49:34,940 --> 01:49:33,060
there's a conspiracy and we need 9/11

2531
01:49:37,250 --> 01:49:34,950
researchers out there to deconstruct it

2532
01:49:38,570 --> 01:49:37,260
in and learn more about its is we have

2533
01:49:41,780 --> 01:49:38,580
what's going to be assassination I mean

2534
01:49:43,130 --> 01:49:41,790
we did you know they right after the

2535
01:49:44,780 --> 01:49:43,140
Warren Commission there were people that

2536
01:49:46,130 --> 01:49:44,790
doubted it and then shortly after that

2537
01:49:47,690 --> 01:49:46,140
there are people that serve ighting

2538
01:49:50,270 --> 01:49:47,700
about in organizing about it and we've

2539
01:49:52,430 --> 01:49:50,280
learned things over the years and we you

2540
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:52,440
know they come better for it

2541
01:49:56,630 --> 01:49:54,570
that's what's going on with 9/11 okay

2542
01:49:59,179 --> 01:49:56,640
but why should we not take it as what it

2543
01:50:01,339 --> 01:49:59,189
was some crazy terrorists

2544
01:50:03,679 --> 01:50:01,349
get into this country because the

2545
01:50:05,540 --> 01:50:03,689
intelligence people in the FBI are just

2546
01:50:07,279 --> 01:50:05,550
not talking to each other and maybe

2547
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:07,289
there's an attention on the part of the

2548
01:50:11,929 --> 01:50:09,449
people at the White House and it happens

2549
01:50:13,939 --> 01:50:11,939
or did they'd let it happen seems to me

2550
01:50:16,879 --> 01:50:13,949
pretty clear that they there was some

2551
01:50:19,699 --> 01:50:16,889
kind of letting it happen there and also

2552
01:50:21,259 --> 01:50:19,709
those the the terrorist networks I mean

2553
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:21,269
it's all global remember all that kind

2554
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:23,489
of happened after we knew for instance

2555
01:50:29,419 --> 01:50:26,010
that saleh bin Laden had been given the

2556
01:50:30,979 --> 01:50:29,429
promise software by that turncoat spook

2557
01:50:33,649 --> 01:50:30,989
guy whose name is going to escape me

2558
01:50:36,409 --> 01:50:33,659
right now but you know they're they're

2559
01:50:44,330 --> 01:50:36,419
all players they're all world players

2560
01:50:46,189 --> 01:50:44,340
and this Kyle you know just blaming an

2561
01:50:48,770 --> 01:50:46,199
Arab culture for them that's just that's

2562
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:48,780
that's not what happened okay but how

2563
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:50,489
then do we prove this are all these

2564
01:50:56,239 --> 01:50:53,489
documents secret it away in the White

2565
01:50:59,390 --> 01:50:56,249
House archives in the CIA archives the

2566
01:51:01,069 --> 01:50:59,400
FBI archives well that's what I'm say

2567
01:51:02,359 --> 01:51:01,079
before fine at the others find the

2568
01:51:07,129 --> 01:51:02,369
people who are doing the research there

2569
01:51:08,659 --> 01:51:07,139
are researchers out there who who have

2570
01:51:10,549 --> 01:51:08,669
files with information there they should

2571
01:51:15,529 --> 01:51:10,559
also be people out there petitioning the

2572
01:51:17,299 --> 01:51:15,539
government for new data through the

2573
01:51:19,100 --> 01:51:17,309
Freedom of Information Act which is

2574
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:19,110
something that has to go on and just on

2575
01:51:21,890 --> 01:51:20,880
file at once and then all of a sudden

2576
01:51:24,379 --> 01:51:21,900
boom you've got everything they have

2577
01:51:25,699 --> 01:51:24,389
that has to be an ongoing effort now

2578
01:51:28,609 --> 01:51:25,709
it's interesting here too

2579
01:51:30,799 --> 01:51:28,619
I hear tell that the Obama

2580
01:51:33,469 --> 01:51:30,809
administration despite promising more

2581
01:51:35,390 --> 01:51:33,479
transparency in government is actually

2582
01:51:37,819 --> 01:51:35,400
harder to deal with when it comes to

2583
01:51:40,489 --> 01:51:37,829
Freedom of Information requests true or

2584
01:51:43,100 --> 01:51:40,499
not I understand that to be true yes I

2585
01:51:44,959 --> 01:51:43,110
understand that to be true you know and

2586
01:51:48,770 --> 01:51:44,969
they're also conducting the drone Wars

2587
01:51:52,399 --> 01:51:48,780
to which is for a guy who supposedly

2588
01:51:54,919 --> 01:51:52,409
wanted to de-escalate the wars and and

2589
01:51:56,659 --> 01:51:54,929
win the Nobel Peace Prize and win the

2590
01:51:57,679 --> 01:51:56,669
Nobel Prize you know we've got drones

2591
01:52:00,799 --> 01:51:57,689
out there just killing people

2592
01:52:06,259 --> 01:52:00,809
robotically without you know any kind of

2593
01:52:09,139 --> 01:52:06,269
human agent involved roans of the

2594
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:09,149
borders here now so that when the

2595
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:11,610
undocumented aliens are trying to get

2596
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:13,440
into this country well we send the

2597
01:52:20,570 --> 01:52:18,480
after them right right right and you

2598
01:52:22,850 --> 01:52:20,580
know I wrote a blog for our feral house

2599
01:52:24,979 --> 01:52:22,860
there before the last election saying

2600
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:24,989
that assassination would have something

2601
01:52:31,250 --> 01:52:27,810
to do with the election results because

2602
01:52:32,900 --> 01:52:31,260
almost every presidential election since

2603
01:52:35,209 --> 01:52:32,910
Kennedy was decided one way or another

2604
01:52:36,830 --> 01:52:35,219
plan assassination and then BOOM so

2605
01:52:39,110 --> 01:52:36,840
shortly after I wrote that boom the

2606
01:52:40,790 --> 01:52:39,120
Libyan ambassador gets assassinated and

2607
01:52:44,180 --> 01:52:40,800
that was kind of hanging like a sword of

2608
01:52:46,550 --> 01:52:44,190
Damocles over Obama during that entire I

2609
01:52:47,750 --> 01:52:46,560
mean there's no other way that Romney

2610
01:52:50,030 --> 01:52:47,760
was going to get elected unless they

2611
01:52:52,729 --> 01:52:50,040
could you know somehow turn that into

2612
01:52:54,650 --> 01:52:52,739
some you know gross form of negligence

2613
01:52:57,439 --> 01:52:54,660
that they were going to expose and make

2614
01:52:57,890 --> 01:52:57,449
the whole administration look corrupt in

2615
01:52:59,959 --> 01:52:57,900
a week

2616
01:53:02,330 --> 01:52:59,969
now some people are suggesting Romney

2617
01:53:04,370 --> 01:53:02,340
should have pushed that more than he did

2618
01:53:06,890 --> 01:53:04,380
on the second debate he brings it up and

2619
01:53:08,510 --> 01:53:06,900
then Obama's shot him down because he's

2620
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:08,520
trying to say well Obama didn't use the

2621
01:53:13,700 --> 01:53:11,370
word terrorists in his initial comments

2622
01:53:15,950 --> 01:53:13,710
which of course wasn't true and during

2623
01:53:19,189 --> 01:53:15,960
the debate on foreign policy they never

2624
01:53:20,630 --> 01:53:19,199
brought it up right right which is weird

2625
01:53:22,130 --> 01:53:20,640
I mean I don't know if we know what

2626
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:22,140
that's all about they did their powers

2627
01:53:26,420 --> 01:53:24,810
to be decide well okay we've got we're

2628
01:53:28,250 --> 01:53:26,430
gonna do this assassination and then we

2629
01:53:29,570 --> 01:53:28,260
have that you know let's see how we can

2630
01:53:33,380 --> 01:53:29,580
use it and then they decide they don't

2631
01:53:35,450 --> 01:53:33,390
want Romney so you know somehow the word

2632
01:53:36,830 --> 01:53:35,460
goes out you know the intelligence

2633
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:36,840
operatives that are working in the

2634
01:53:43,310 --> 01:53:40,410
Romney campaign undersell and the power

2635
01:53:45,530 --> 01:53:43,320
of that and kind of convince the try not

2636
01:53:49,070 --> 01:53:45,540
to bring it up and then so we got the

2637
01:53:50,750 --> 01:53:49,080
guy they wanted us to have Obama so then

2638
01:53:53,660 --> 01:53:50,760
the conspiracy theorist was saying what

2639
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:53,670
is Obama doing what is Obama doing that

2640
01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:54,690
is so weird

2641
01:54:06,250 --> 01:53:57,570
or conspiratorial that they would want

2642
01:54:08,300 --> 01:54:06,260
him over Omni no it's keeping the

2643
01:54:12,140 --> 01:54:08,310
military contractors happy with the

2644
01:54:18,500 --> 01:54:12,150
drone wars for one agency hasn't closed

2645
01:54:21,740 --> 01:54:18,510
Guantanamo I mean to their you know many

2646
01:54:23,689 --> 01:54:21,750
of his policies they're just in he just

2647
01:54:25,820 --> 01:54:23,699
wouldn't expect particularly after the

2648
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:25,830
second election and we have yet to see I

2649
01:54:30,260 --> 01:54:27,090
mean they were still the middle

2650
01:54:31,700 --> 01:54:30,270
what is house policies are gonna change

2651
01:54:37,150 --> 01:54:31,710
but in the first four years he really

2652
01:54:42,790 --> 01:54:40,430
Bush for Clinton was pushed to because

2653
01:54:47,330 --> 01:54:42,800
he was totally compromised by poppy bush

2654
01:54:49,610 --> 01:54:47,340
in the whole Mena Arkansas fiasco and

2655
01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:49,620
and then of course double use that was

2656
01:54:55,340 --> 01:54:51,890
the third bush and now we have you know

2657
01:54:56,570 --> 01:54:55,350
Obama made all these promises of things

2658
01:54:59,930 --> 01:54:56,580
that he was gonna do if elected

2659
01:55:03,200 --> 01:54:59,940
president in his first campaign for the

2660
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:03,210
presidency and except for you know the

2661
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:06,090
the whole down grading of the Iraq

2662
01:55:10,430 --> 01:55:08,010
conflict and and turning it over to

2663
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:10,440
private contractors basically he did get

2664
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:12,090
the military out of Iraq I can't think

2665
01:55:19,670 --> 01:55:16,890
of one other thing that he did that made

2666
01:55:21,950 --> 01:55:19,680
good on his campaign promises a you know

2667
01:55:24,230 --> 01:55:21,960
of course the health care thing is is is

2668
01:55:27,020 --> 01:55:24,240
a I think many people consider it a joke

2669
01:55:30,590 --> 01:55:27,030
it's a sellout to private industry yeah

2670
01:55:32,660 --> 01:55:30,600
exactly in is so once these guys get in

2671
01:55:35,300 --> 01:55:32,670
that position of power it's almost like

2672
01:55:38,030 --> 01:55:35,310
they they have selected memory they they

2673
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:38,040
don't it's it's like all the things that

2674
01:55:41,300 --> 01:55:39,210
they were promising that they were gonna

2675
01:55:43,340 --> 01:55:41,310
do and stands they were gonna take and

2676
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:43,350
you know crusading positions that they

2677
01:55:48,890 --> 01:55:46,290
were going to to to you know use the

2678
01:55:50,420 --> 01:55:48,900
bully pulpit to to spearhead all this

2679
01:55:52,910 --> 01:55:50,430
stuff goes out the window and these guys

2680
01:55:54,950 --> 01:55:52,920
just play business as usual doesn't

2681
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:54,960
matter which which party is in I'm just

2682
01:55:59,000 --> 01:55:56,970
finish this it's interesting here that

2683
01:56:00,440 --> 01:55:59,010
you almost think that maybe the

2684
01:56:02,150 --> 01:56:00,450
president goes in there with good

2685
01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:02,160
intentions like Jimmy Carter was going

2686
01:56:05,450 --> 01:56:04,080
to find out the mystery of UFOs and

2687
01:56:07,550 --> 01:56:05,460
what's going on because of his sighting

2688
01:56:11,060 --> 01:56:07,560
and they get in there in the first day

2689
01:56:13,250 --> 01:56:11,070
they take office after they get the oath

2690
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:13,260
of office and now I'm president now I'll

2691
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do the things I want to do and then a

2692
01:56:20,540 --> 01:56:17,490
couple of people in dark suits and

2693
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briefcases and maybe something really

2694
01:56:26,420 --> 01:56:24,330
thick in their pockets that you worry

2695
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:26,430
about what that is they come to visit

2696
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:28,050
the president say mr. president before

2697
01:56:32,450 --> 01:56:30,210
you proceed in doing what you're going

2698
01:56:35,540 --> 01:56:32,460
to do there are some things you need to

2699
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know about traditions here and may tell

2700
01:56:39,230 --> 01:56:37,380
them and maybe some of the things they

2701
01:56:40,969 --> 01:56:39,240
tell the president are not really

2702
01:56:44,330 --> 01:56:40,979
pleasant to hear like you

2703
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if you maybe don't go along with the

2704
01:56:49,850 --> 01:56:46,800
plane and the protocols the traditions

2705
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of this office maybe you won't survive

2706
01:56:53,689 --> 01:56:51,570
to your second term or there won't be a

2707
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second term or we'll find a way for

2708
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someone else to be elected so that might

2709
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be a lot of things right there because

2710
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their self-interest is will I have to

2711
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survive so maybe I'll make a few

2712
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sacrifices and that's where it goes

2713
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well what one version of that story and

2714
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I have offered her that as soon as they

2715
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get elected they're brought in to a

2716
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screening room somewhere and shown very

2717
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into the Kennedy assassination from

2718
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various angles that aren't as a brooder

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film and they you know they give you a

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guy idea up close and personal then look

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you don't do what we want you to do this

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is going to happen to you too you know

2723
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what's going to happen to us if we don't

2724
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do this break I can't tell you Ken

2725
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Thomas joining us with Jean and Chris

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system falling apart China getting out

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inevitable politicians in Washington

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cast com see they've taken over Chris's

2828
02:02:07,739 --> 02:02:05,289
mind he's being possessed by the

2829
02:02:09,239 --> 02:02:07,749
trickster and Thomas joining us we were

2830
02:02:12,299 --> 02:02:09,249
talking about all sorts of conspiracy

2831
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:12,309
theories about why presidents once they

2832
02:02:16,679 --> 02:02:15,130
get into office you know for all

2833
02:02:18,839 --> 02:02:16,689
practical purposes they're not so

2834
02:02:20,969 --> 02:02:18,849
different like yeah there are people

2835
02:02:22,679 --> 02:02:20,979
saying that look at this crazy liberal

2836
02:02:25,080 --> 02:02:22,689
person we've got in the White House now

2837
02:02:27,779 --> 02:02:25,090
Obama but if you look at what he really

2838
02:02:30,179 --> 02:02:27,789
did he's really a moderate Republican

2839
02:02:31,290 --> 02:02:30,189
how do you interpret that well yeah

2840
02:02:32,669 --> 02:02:31,300
that's exactly right Christopher

2841
02:02:34,259 --> 02:02:32,679
Hitchens used to make that point what

2842
02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:34,269
difference does it make you know what

2843
02:02:39,319 --> 02:02:36,130
knucklehead is occupying the White House

2844
02:02:43,109 --> 02:02:39,329
at the time it's it's the policies of

2845
02:02:44,819 --> 02:02:43,119
the establishment which is larger than

2846
02:02:48,839 --> 02:02:44,829
the United States you know it's a global

2847
02:02:50,639 --> 02:02:48,849
military industrial complex and it's no

2848
02:02:52,949 --> 02:02:50,649
matter what bureaucrat they put in that

2849
02:02:54,629 --> 02:02:52,959
seat at this point this is why this is

2850
02:02:57,540 --> 02:02:54,639
also an argument that's been factored in

2851
02:02:59,189 --> 02:02:57,550
in this discussion about gun control and

2852
02:03:01,770 --> 02:02:59,199
the Second Amendment

2853
02:03:05,489 --> 02:03:01,780
that all these people who want to have

2854
02:03:08,189 --> 02:03:05,499
the automatic weapons and machine guns

2855
02:03:09,899 --> 02:03:08,199
and so forth even though the the Second

2856
02:03:13,469 --> 02:03:09,909
Amendment was was written at a time when

2857
02:03:16,259 --> 02:03:13,479
the British had muskets we all live

2858
02:03:17,939 --> 02:03:16,269
under a nuclear arsenal and I say yeah

2859
02:03:19,409 --> 02:03:17,949
sure good let's have you Betty have any

2860
02:03:21,359 --> 02:03:19,419
assault weapon they want and if they're

2861
02:03:24,540 --> 02:03:21,369
really feeling oppressed why don't you

2862
02:03:25,830 --> 02:03:24,550
go at it go shoot those nuclear silos or

2863
02:03:29,489 --> 02:03:25,840
you know maybe one of the modern

2864
02:03:33,330 --> 02:03:29,499
battleships and see exactly how far that

2865
02:03:39,659 --> 02:03:33,340
gets John Lennon said happiness is a

2866
02:03:41,370 --> 02:03:39,669
warm gun we all know that like Richards

2867
02:03:43,469 --> 02:03:41,380
daughter he climbed over the fence at

2868
02:03:44,850 --> 02:03:43,479
Minot in one of the missile silos there

2869
02:03:46,830 --> 02:03:44,860
and it took over an hour for them to

2870
02:03:50,969 --> 02:03:46,840
realize he was there and can come and

2871
02:03:53,040 --> 02:03:50,979
arrest him right right but you know even

2872
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:53,050
you put an assault rifle in the hands of

2873
02:03:55,260 --> 02:03:53,290
every

2874
02:03:58,410 --> 02:03:55,270
American earners though they can't you

2875
02:04:02,160 --> 02:03:58,420
know face up to American military might

2876
02:04:04,950 --> 02:04:02,170
the the its Dylan's and admit that the

2877
02:04:07,230 --> 02:04:04,960
waters around you have grown they have

2878
02:04:10,650 --> 02:04:07,240
and that's why are the second amendment

2879
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:10,660
debate is so irrelevant yeah but the

2880
02:04:15,510 --> 02:04:13,210
thing is also if everybody has the

2881
02:04:18,420 --> 02:04:15,520
assault weapon we don't shoot each other

2882
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:18,430
because we can destroy each other right

2883
02:04:21,750 --> 02:04:19,930
but we can't aim the weapons at the

2884
02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:21,760
weapons that are oppressing us because

2885
02:04:25,110 --> 02:04:23,650
they're far larger than anything that we

2886
02:04:28,170 --> 02:04:25,120
have the only thing we can kill are

2887
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:28,180
school children and each other yeah well

2888
02:04:32,700 --> 02:04:29,530
they're even conspiracy theories about

2889
02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:32,710
the school shootings oh yeah I don't

2890
02:04:38,210 --> 02:04:34,450
think we have time for those okay why

2891
02:04:40,890 --> 02:04:38,220
even do them I really don't I think

2892
02:04:43,550 --> 02:04:40,900
sometimes some people 9/11 is bad enough

2893
02:04:46,710 --> 02:04:43,560
because there are people out there who

2894
02:04:49,530 --> 02:04:46,720
basically were impacted by 9/11 I was

2895
02:04:50,970 --> 02:04:49,540
strangely impacted by 9/11 I think I've

2896
02:04:54,390 --> 02:04:50,980
mentioned this in the power cast before

2897
02:04:56,910 --> 02:04:54,400
six weeks before 9/11 I'm in New York

2898
02:04:59,730 --> 02:04:56,920
City for Macworld Expo

2899
02:05:01,680 --> 02:04:59,740
you know the Expo about Apple Macintosh

2900
02:05:04,050 --> 02:05:01,690
products this is one of the years one of

2901
02:05:06,630 --> 02:05:04,060
the final years as Steve Jobs was doing

2902
02:05:09,330 --> 02:05:06,640
the keynote and so we went to the World

2903
02:05:10,860 --> 02:05:09,340
Trade Center as tourists first thing is

2904
02:05:13,110 --> 02:05:10,870
I dropped my camera and break the lens

2905
02:05:16,050 --> 02:05:13,120
I'm using an old-fashioned film camera

2906
02:05:17,910 --> 02:05:16,060
step number one step number two go up

2907
02:05:21,300 --> 02:05:17,920
the elevator and then as an escalator

2908
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:21,310
that took you to the tower to the top of

2909
02:05:25,050 --> 02:05:23,050
the building I couldn't go up there I

2910
02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:25,060
was scared to death and I'm not great

2911
02:05:29,670 --> 02:05:26,410
with Heights but I've done that before

2912
02:05:31,740 --> 02:05:29,680
and I survived this time I just felt a

2913
02:05:34,620 --> 02:05:31,750
horrible sense of dread I could not wait

2914
02:05:36,210 --> 02:05:34,630
to get out of that building and of

2915
02:05:42,330 --> 02:05:36,220
course my wife and son looked at me like

2916
02:05:44,250 --> 02:05:42,340
Oh daddy's crazy he's UFO man right I

2917
02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:44,260
was a bicycle messenger on Wall Street I

2918
02:05:48,540 --> 02:05:45,850
used to have to go in and out of that

2919
02:05:50,370 --> 02:05:48,550
thing several times a day and every time

2920
02:05:52,260 --> 02:05:50,380
I would sit there in the plaza and lock

2921
02:05:54,660 --> 02:05:52,270
my bike up in the bike rack I'd look up

2922
02:05:56,940 --> 02:05:54,670
at the buildings and I just had this

2923
02:05:58,590 --> 02:05:56,950
eerie feeling like they they were

2924
02:06:00,390 --> 02:05:58,600
mirages like they weren't even there

2925
02:06:02,850 --> 02:06:00,400
it's very spooky

2926
02:06:06,270 --> 02:06:02,860
you got to thinking back about it and my

2927
02:06:06,970 --> 02:06:06,280
my ex-girlfriends mother hurt one of her

2928
02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:06,980
best friend

2929
02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:08,810
operated a little deli there just

2930
02:06:14,290 --> 02:06:10,850
opposite the plaza and she said there

2931
02:06:16,870 --> 02:06:14,300
was an incredible amount of unusual New

2932
02:06:20,110 --> 02:06:16,880
York City police activity from about

2933
02:06:23,320 --> 02:06:20,120
5:30 in the morning until the towers

2934
02:06:25,090 --> 02:06:23,330
well you know we're here she said the

2935
02:06:27,580 --> 02:06:25,100
cop cars racing all around with their

2936
02:06:28,930 --> 02:06:27,590
lights on but with no sirens and it was

2937
02:06:31,090 --> 02:06:28,940
highly unusual she'd have been in there

2938
02:06:34,060 --> 02:06:31,100
30 years you know serving coffee and

2939
02:06:35,950 --> 02:06:34,070
bagels to to the workers before they go

2940
02:06:38,830 --> 02:06:35,960
up to their offices and she said that it

2941
02:06:40,360 --> 02:06:38,840
struck her that she really had a very

2942
02:06:44,290 --> 02:06:40,370
very vivid sense that there was

2943
02:06:45,070 --> 02:06:44,300
something going on that morning so for

2944
02:06:48,460 --> 02:06:45,080
whatever that's worth

2945
02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:48,470
well I would be remiss Bello in his

2946
02:06:52,780 --> 02:06:51,290
discussion about how these conspiracies

2947
02:06:56,890 --> 02:06:52,790
are respected the media if I didn't

2948
02:06:59,620 --> 02:06:56,900
bring up LIBOR and Sandy Hook guys

2949
02:07:03,670 --> 02:06:59,630
followed any of that at all and they did

2950
02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:03,680
the notion that yeah the idea that Sandy

2951
02:07:10,570 --> 02:07:06,170
Hook is actually the name Sandy Hook is

2952
02:07:13,180 --> 02:07:10,580
on a map in the Batman movie that was

2953
02:07:15,660 --> 02:07:13,190
part of the Aurora killings and that all

2954
02:07:17,620 --> 02:07:15,670
of that there's a lot of synchronistic

2955
02:07:18,940 --> 02:07:17,630
coincidental connections to be made and

2956
02:07:22,950 --> 02:07:18,950
all of it is covering up actually a

2957
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:22,960
scandal called LIBOR Li Bo AR that

2958
02:07:27,670 --> 02:07:25,610
hasn't been a peep about in the major

2959
02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:27,680
media you know there was going to be a

2960
02:07:33,370 --> 02:07:29,090
congressional investigation that was

2961
02:07:36,850 --> 02:07:33,380
dropped in the aftermath of everything

2962
02:07:37,720 --> 02:07:36,860
that happened at Sandy Hook so so there

2963
02:07:40,150 --> 02:07:37,730
you have it again

2964
02:07:42,490 --> 02:07:40,160
yeah well the the fathers of the two

2965
02:07:44,350 --> 02:07:42,500
killers of by the the Aurora movie

2966
02:07:47,260 --> 02:07:44,360
theater with the Batman movie and then

2967
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:47,270
the father of this latest just terrible

2968
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:47,930
tragedy

2969
02:07:53,410 --> 02:07:51,050
both had very interesting jobs the first

2970
02:07:57,190 --> 02:07:53,420
guy worked for I think Fiza

2971
02:08:00,729 --> 02:07:57,200
and or fight guy I forget the F is a or

2972
02:08:05,320 --> 02:08:00,739
fic a fry fry and and then the father of

2973
02:08:08,350 --> 02:08:05,330
this latest guy this his latest mass

2974
02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:08,360
murderer it had developed some sort of

2975
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:10,850
like super software for the accounting

2976
02:08:16,209 --> 02:08:14,330
division of GE and that I've always

2977
02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:16,219
wondered how a company as large as GE

2978
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:17,930
can get away four years without paying

2979
02:08:27,770 --> 02:08:21,330
taxes they didn't

2980
02:08:32,320 --> 02:08:27,780
did a 57,000 page tax return and so I

2981
02:08:35,570 --> 02:08:32,330
know students is a little disconcerting

2982
02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:35,580
but the speculation amongst compare

2983
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:37,050
political research is that I've been

2984
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:38,970
reading is that these things are

2985
02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:41,690
connected to something called LIBOR the

2986
02:08:51,950 --> 02:08:47,930
London interbank offered rate which is

2987
02:08:54,290 --> 02:08:51,960
another complicated scandal ándale in

2988
02:08:57,560 --> 02:08:54,300
history right right and there were

2989
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congressional hearings that were set to

2990
02:09:02,300 --> 02:08:59,340
investigate it they were called off in

2991
02:09:06,020 --> 02:09:02,310
the aftermath of of all of us in Sandy

2992
02:09:07,910 --> 02:09:06,030
Hook but you know this has been so soft

2993
02:09:10,100 --> 02:09:07,920
peddled and covered up that a few people

2994
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even know it the one the one writer

2995
02:09:15,740 --> 02:09:11,820
actually who's done significant stuff on

2996
02:09:18,380 --> 02:09:15,750
this is uh Skyler alphabet have you ever

2997
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had Skylar's on no we have it

2998
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I don't think so huh she is she she's in

2999
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my book she's in a popular pair of

3000
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politics she wrote a report for a steam

3001
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shovel wants us or the about the first

3002
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conspiracy conference that happened in

3003
02:09:36,710 --> 02:09:33,360
Santa Barbara back in I think 2004 and

3004
02:09:38,300 --> 02:09:36,720
so I've put that in in the book the book

3005
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has a whole section called Steve shovel

3006
02:09:41,570 --> 02:09:40,380
press the latest issues being oppressed

3007
02:09:43,100 --> 02:09:41,580
so it's in there and she's writing an

3008
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introduction to this and she's done some

3009
02:09:48,260 --> 02:09:45,630
extraordinary research about LIBOR I

3010
02:09:49,910 --> 02:09:48,270
can't even do it justice here but if

3011
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anybody wants to follow up on this

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that's one reason to get this book

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there's also another reason to get

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hopefully this will also be reprinted in

3015
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the next issue of Ron Penn's paranoia

3016
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magazine oh well I think there's so much

3017
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to talk about and only two more seconds

3018
02:10:08,180 --> 02:10:06,300
left on the prior cast we have one or

3019
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two questions from our listeners that we

3020
02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:10,860
put in the question Bank section of

3021
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forum dr. Peric ascom we didn't have a

3022
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lot of time to prepare our listeners for

3023
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this event which is why we only have

3024
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those few questions but Chris will pose

3025
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them in our next segment with Ken Thomas

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[Music]

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hi my name is Richard Dolan you're

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listening to the Peres cast

3131
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get ready couple of questions from our

3132
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listeners posted in the question Bank

3133
02:15:07,890 --> 02:15:06,010
over at forum dot para cast comm with

3134
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Jean and Chris we have Ken Thomas of

3135
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steam shovel press you go to steam

3136
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shovel Prescott and you have links to

3137
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books and stuff Chris a couple questions

3138
02:15:19,379 --> 02:15:17,230
you know we have a rather

3139
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tongue-in-cheek question from pixel

3140
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Smith who was part of our forum

3141
02:15:27,360 --> 02:15:24,699
roundtable in our last show and he wants

3142
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to know he says I would love to hear

3143
02:15:33,149 --> 02:15:29,260
about the conspiracy theories that ended

3144
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up being true I guess it wouldn't be a

3145
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conspiracy theory if it ended up being

3146
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true it'd be conspiracy fact and there

3147
02:15:46,709 --> 02:15:40,449
are lots of them to talk about there's

3148
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of course Tuskegee experiments you know

3149
02:15:52,620 --> 02:15:49,960
the the the gassing of the New York

3150
02:15:55,830 --> 02:15:52,630
subway system that ended up being true

3151
02:15:58,470 --> 02:15:55,840
as some sort of field experiment by the

3152
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intelligence agencies of spraying San

3153
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Francisco I mean you know those off the

3154
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top of my head my question is who is the

3155
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arbiter of truth I mean did that exact

3156
02:16:12,149 --> 02:16:10,090
yeah that means there was if it means

3157
02:16:14,939 --> 02:16:12,159
that there was a legal conclusion then

3158
02:16:17,820 --> 02:16:14,949
that finally said that yes there was a

3159
02:16:19,470 --> 02:16:17,830
conspiracy then once again we're back to

3160
02:16:21,770 --> 02:16:19,480
the Kennedy assassination because that

3161
02:16:23,879 --> 02:16:21,780
is the official conclusion so the truth

3162
02:16:26,430 --> 02:16:23,889
according to the government is that

3163
02:16:28,020 --> 02:16:26,440
there was a conspiracy brought on so

3164
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many of those issues like the ones you

3165
02:16:33,600 --> 02:16:31,000
just named it never gets that far you

3166
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know there's a big almost all

3167
02:16:39,389 --> 02:16:37,000
conspiracies who have cover-ups attached

3168
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to them that are quite often successful

3169
02:16:42,450 --> 02:16:40,570
so the only people that know the truth

3170
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are the people who have done research

3171
02:16:48,240 --> 02:16:45,820
into it you know you know I would argue

3172
02:16:54,030 --> 02:16:48,250
in my experience and then in most cases

3173
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if something is so screwed up that it

3174
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seems likely that it probably is a

3175
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conspiracy you know and and there is

3176
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truth to the rumor and so you know I

3177
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would say you know my inclination is to

3178
02:17:16,830 --> 02:17:11,050
accept that as a conspiracy until proven

3179
02:17:19,169 --> 02:17:16,840
why hey that's probably a pretty that's

3180
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a safe way to to kind of go with a lot

3181
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of this stuff there's no question that

3182
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that there's a lot of things that aren't

3183
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as they seem that we're being fed a

3184
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whitewashed version of history in some

3185
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sense and and that there are certain

3186
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elements that are left out and most

3187
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people aren't aware of them because

3188
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quite frankly they they'd rather you

3189
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know have their heads in the sand and

3190
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their pink little tushies up in the air

3191
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waiting for the jackboot which is about

3192
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where our this country is right now and

3193
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I hate to sound like some sort of

3194
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ranting

3195
02:17:55,230 --> 02:17:52,990
talk radio person here but but it's true

3196
02:17:58,679 --> 02:17:55,240
ignorance is bliss people don't want to

3197
02:18:00,750 --> 02:17:58,689
know the truth so you know pixel Smith I

3198
02:18:03,450 --> 02:18:00,760
do some research and you tell us you

3199
02:18:06,599 --> 02:18:03,460
start a thread on the forums and you

3200
02:18:09,509 --> 02:18:06,609
tell us which conspiracies that you have

3201
02:18:11,370 --> 02:18:09,519
found that that have that have actually

3202
02:18:14,280 --> 02:18:11,380
proven to be true I've named off about

3203
02:18:15,719 --> 02:18:14,290
four or five cans of course eloquently

3204
02:18:17,700 --> 02:18:15,729
answer the question here's another one

3205
02:18:21,209 --> 02:18:17,710
for you this one comes from Conrad

3206
02:18:24,150 --> 02:18:21,219
Hartman who's been a a forum poster now

3207
02:18:25,709 --> 02:18:24,160
for almost a year and he says this is

3208
02:18:28,020 --> 02:18:25,719
I'd be interested to hear your answer

3209
02:18:30,089 --> 02:18:28,030
here are you aware of any theories or

3210
02:18:33,059 --> 02:18:30,099
details Ken regarding current human

3211
02:18:34,860 --> 02:18:33,069
experimentation in North Korea reports

3212
02:18:36,690 --> 02:18:34,870
continue to filter out of various

3213
02:18:38,759 --> 02:18:36,700
atrocities being performed by the

3214
02:18:41,009 --> 02:18:38,769
government including accounts of

3215
02:18:43,559 --> 02:18:41,019
experimental victims abducted in a black

3216
02:18:45,509 --> 02:18:43,569
van referred to as the crow we hear

3217
02:18:47,309 --> 02:18:45,519
other accounts of concentration camps

3218
02:18:49,349 --> 02:18:47,319
and cannibalism both together and apart

3219
02:18:52,940 --> 02:18:49,359
but do you have any comment on what's

3220
02:18:56,759 --> 02:18:52,950
going on in North Korea in North Korea

3221
02:18:59,459 --> 02:18:56,769
yeah I I'm not aware of anything

3222
02:19:01,620 --> 02:18:59,469
specifically to to what's being said

3223
02:19:03,360 --> 02:19:01,630
there when I think of North Korea of

3224
02:19:07,020 --> 02:19:03,370
course I think of the satellite imagery

3225
02:19:10,200 --> 02:19:07,030
that shows after dark but shows a life

3226
02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:10,210
everywhere except their Christmas tree

3227
02:19:13,950 --> 02:19:12,010
and there's nothing in the north and

3228
02:19:15,509 --> 02:19:13,960
there's nothing there yeah and I don't

3229
02:19:20,309 --> 02:19:15,519
know I mean it seems to me to be a

3230
02:19:22,519 --> 02:19:20,319
matter of government policy to to keep

3231
02:19:24,409 --> 02:19:22,529
people in the dark as it were

3232
02:19:27,500 --> 02:19:24,419
literally and figuratively yeah so they

3233
02:19:29,689 --> 02:19:27,510
don't really need conspiracy there yeah

3234
02:19:31,729 --> 02:19:29,699
I had an interesting conversation a

3235
02:19:34,099 --> 02:19:31,739
number of years back with grandfather

3236
02:19:37,219 --> 02:19:34,109
Martin and gosh we owe some o of the

3237
02:19:39,139 --> 02:19:37,229
hopi and he was convinced that the war

3238
02:19:43,309 --> 02:19:39,149
of the gourd of ashes would culminate

3239
02:19:45,229 --> 02:19:43,319
with China putting North Korea up to

3240
02:19:48,319 --> 02:19:45,239
attack in the US with nuclear weapons

3241
02:19:49,639 --> 02:19:48,329
and he told me that's way back probably

3242
02:19:51,829 --> 02:19:49,649
1012 years ago

3243
02:19:54,949 --> 02:19:51,839
Kris you're saying that therefore North

3244
02:19:58,670 --> 02:19:54,959
Korea would be a proxy for China exactly

3245
02:20:00,349 --> 02:19:58,680
and and he I guess he did some sort of

3246
02:20:02,449 --> 02:20:00,359
Vision Quest or something and he saw

3247
02:20:05,239 --> 02:20:02,459
these these these rockets coming over

3248
02:20:08,689 --> 02:20:05,249
the over you know from North Korea and

3249
02:20:11,809 --> 02:20:08,699
landing on the west coast but yeah you

3250
02:20:14,420 --> 02:20:11,819
know a closed system like that is is

3251
02:20:17,659 --> 02:20:14,430
very difficult to pry open some of these

3252
02:20:20,059 --> 02:20:17,669
stories and really get get to the bottom

3253
02:20:21,889 --> 02:20:20,069
of some of these rumors that are coming

3254
02:20:24,889 --> 02:20:21,899
out North Korea be a classic example of

3255
02:20:27,439 --> 02:20:24,899
how difficult it is yeah that look like

3256
02:20:29,840 --> 02:20:27,449
I can't imagine how they could get

3257
02:20:33,500 --> 02:20:29,850
missiles over here before we would take

3258
02:20:35,149 --> 02:20:33,510
them down just doesn't you know what I

3259
02:20:39,619 --> 02:20:35,159
know about the technology of it all it

3260
02:20:42,229 --> 02:20:39,629
just doesn't seem possible but we always

3261
02:20:44,420 --> 02:20:42,239
used that as an excuse didn't they use

3262
02:20:50,239 --> 02:20:44,430
9/11 as an excuse even though is a

3263
02:20:52,279 --> 02:20:50,249
misdirected one to attack Iraq and

3264
02:20:55,250 --> 02:20:52,289
Afghanistan I mean it's the wars are

3265
02:20:56,840 --> 02:20:55,260
still involved in well here's one for

3266
02:20:59,869 --> 02:20:56,850
you I got a question how much do you

3267
02:21:03,909 --> 02:20:59,879
think the war in Afghanistan has to do

3268
02:21:06,979 --> 02:21:03,919
with controlling the heroin and poppy

3269
02:21:08,929 --> 02:21:06,989
supply on the planet and this trillion

3270
02:21:11,239 --> 02:21:08,939
dollars worth of rare earth metals that

3271
02:21:14,149 --> 02:21:11,249
are there what do you think is going on

3272
02:21:16,609 --> 02:21:14,159
there yeah almost everything I think it

3273
02:21:19,880 --> 02:21:16,619
is almost everything - I mean Osama bin

3274
02:21:22,750 --> 02:21:19,890
Laden is dead right and al-qaeda isn't

3275
02:21:25,340 --> 02:21:22,760
really much of a force anymore

3276
02:21:26,899 --> 02:21:25,350
supposedly we're scaling down there but

3277
02:21:28,399 --> 02:21:26,909
it's been always been the case so in

3278
02:21:32,869 --> 02:21:28,409
Afghanistan has always been about the

3279
02:21:34,219 --> 02:21:32,879
opium trade and it's writing yeah no

3280
02:21:35,751 --> 02:21:34,229
one's ever actually subjugated the

3281
02:21:38,780 --> 02:21:35,761
Afghan people from the outside

3282
02:21:42,711 --> 02:21:38,790
the British tried you know the Mongols

3283
02:21:44,511 --> 02:21:42,721
tried the Russians tried there's there's

3284
02:21:46,131 --> 02:21:44,521
a lot of nasty stuff that goes on in

3285
02:21:48,020 --> 02:21:46,141
that part of the world that's for sure

3286
02:21:51,650 --> 02:21:48,030
and a lot of it has our name on it I'm

3287
02:21:53,751 --> 02:21:51,660
sure I would think here also that we're

3288
02:21:56,180 --> 02:21:53,761
trying to just leave the place leave it

3289
02:21:58,911 --> 02:21:56,190
alone get the heck out of there and save

3290
02:22:01,280 --> 02:21:58,921
face but we wonder what that country is

3291
02:22:02,841 --> 02:22:01,290
gonna be like once we're gone that

3292
02:22:09,890 --> 02:22:02,851
government for example is gonna last

3293
02:22:11,331 --> 02:22:09,900
about 30 seconds yeah I think we're

3294
02:22:13,280 --> 02:22:11,341
entertaining fantasies to think that we

3295
02:22:16,100 --> 02:22:13,290
really admit want to make a serious

3296
02:22:20,511 --> 02:22:16,110
effort of not extending our control

3297
02:22:22,610 --> 02:22:20,521
throughout the world you know there'll

3298
02:22:27,381 --> 02:22:22,620
be some kind of manufactured incident or

3299
02:22:29,841 --> 02:22:27,391
something that'll keep trying yeah they

3300
02:22:31,461 --> 02:22:29,851
tried with Libya and they're trying with

3301
02:22:35,001 --> 02:22:31,471
Egypt I guess because they're more

3302
02:22:37,911 --> 02:22:35,011
unrest there we're trying with Syria you

3303
02:22:39,110 --> 02:22:37,921
know trying to force an issue there so

3304
02:22:41,270 --> 02:22:39,120
if you have a sense of some sort of

3305
02:22:47,421 --> 02:22:41,280
false flag event looming on the horizon

3306
02:22:50,961 --> 02:22:47,431
on 9/11 or maybe a unfactored hurricane

3307
02:22:53,690 --> 02:22:50,971
a manufactured hurricane that's nesting

3308
02:23:00,110 --> 02:22:53,700
one yeah I would expect something like

3309
02:23:02,751 --> 02:23:00,120
that wait that's the part you get to

3310
02:23:04,610 --> 02:23:02,761
lose my voice that's right we don't have

3311
02:23:08,841 --> 02:23:04,620
much time ago we have yeah like the bus

3312
02:23:11,030 --> 02:23:08,851
maybe 12 minutes did a lot of the

3313
02:23:14,600 --> 02:23:11,040
research on the Harper Ray was Jerry

3314
02:23:25,251 --> 02:23:14,610
Smith right well in and make magic Nick

3315
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Begich of course we've tried to get him

3316
02:23:31,220 --> 02:23:27,360
back on but he's really tough to get

3317
02:23:33,291 --> 02:23:31,230
he's up in Alaska and I think he said we

3318
02:23:35,511 --> 02:23:33,301
gotta have Sarah Palin on first and

3319
02:23:37,280 --> 02:23:35,521
since we're never gonna have Sarah Palin

3320
02:23:39,650 --> 02:23:37,290
come on the power cast I can guarantee

3321
02:23:42,291 --> 02:23:39,660
you that Sarah Palin unless she has a

3322
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really compelling UFO sighting we never

3323
02:23:47,690 --> 02:23:45,391
be on the podcast as a result of it

3324
02:23:49,900 --> 02:23:47,700
yeah yeah she said some kind of falling

3325
02:23:52,280 --> 02:23:49,910
out with the Fox Network - right

3326
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fired her you know they fired her a

3327
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couple weeks ago yeah well she could see

3328
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well have you heard who's replacing

3329
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Beyonce at the Super Bowl are you with

3330
02:24:04,610 --> 02:24:03,300
me I don't know I don't think I follow

3331
02:24:06,950 --> 02:24:04,620
that I have to tell you really honestly

3332
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I don't follow those conspiracies that's

3333
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one that is just way off the radar and

3334
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frankly my dear what's I don't give a

3335
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damn I'll tell you what we got Ken

3336
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Thomas who does give a damn and grace we

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let's Jean and Chris you've made it

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possible for Ken Thomas to almost lose

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his voice this is what we do to people

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yeah I think it's my father I was just

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about to explain that this Super Bowl

3459
02:29:17,260 --> 02:29:14,000
this weekend Bob Dylan is doing the

3460
02:29:18,820 --> 02:29:17,270
halftime thing and Bob Dylan is one of

3461
02:29:21,219 --> 02:29:18,830
your great conspiracy theorists of all

3462
02:29:24,219 --> 02:29:21,229
time I think and if you listen to

3463
02:29:26,260 --> 02:29:24,229
Dylan's new record and in fact this is

3464
02:29:28,240 --> 02:29:26,270
this awful actually dovetails back into

3465
02:29:29,740 --> 02:29:28,250
the idea of synchronicity Dylan you

3466
02:29:31,600 --> 02:29:29,750
recently did an interview in Rolling

3467
02:29:33,790 --> 02:29:31,610
Stone magazine where he talks about a

3468
02:29:38,230 --> 02:29:33,800
second Bob Zimmerman who got into a

3469
02:29:40,330 --> 02:29:38,240
motorcycle accident and died in 1966

3470
02:29:42,820 --> 02:29:40,340
which is you know famous in rock history

3471
02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:42,830
Dylan's motorcycle accident is and he

3472
02:29:46,210 --> 02:29:44,570
starts talking about synchronicities and

3473
02:29:47,980 --> 02:29:46,220
how he was transfigured by everything

3474
02:29:50,680 --> 02:29:47,990
that he was discovering about the second

3475
02:29:53,020 --> 02:29:50,690
Bob Zimmerman so that's fascinating but

3476
02:29:53,940 --> 02:29:53,030
also in his latest release called

3477
02:29:58,360 --> 02:29:53,950
tempest

3478
02:30:00,550 --> 02:29:58,370
which is as marvelous long sea chantey

3479
02:30:02,740 --> 02:30:00,560
about the Titanic but it also has a

3480
02:30:05,320 --> 02:30:02,750
tribute to John Lennon called roll on

3481
02:30:07,120 --> 02:30:05,330
John and the lyrics are they shot him in

3482
02:30:08,620 --> 02:30:07,130
the back and his his whole conspiracy

3483
02:30:11,230 --> 02:30:08,630
all the minute gets into the whole

3484
02:30:12,670 --> 02:30:11,240
notion of you know why Kennedy was

3485
02:30:15,190 --> 02:30:12,680
assassinated it's not the main point of

3486
02:30:17,200 --> 02:30:15,200
the song but it's definitely you know

3487
02:30:24,100 --> 02:30:17,210
little lyrics how they shot him in the

3488
02:30:25,930 --> 02:30:24,110
back so the commercial paranoid to make

3489
02:30:29,670 --> 02:30:25,940
the boys and rougher now his voice is

3490
02:30:31,780 --> 02:30:29,680
pretty well shot at his age though

3491
02:30:35,469 --> 02:30:31,790
marvelously it's that's like an old

3492
02:30:38,610 --> 02:30:35,479
Delta blues guy now and again he's gonna

3493
02:30:42,010 --> 02:30:38,620
be halftime at the Super Bowl the first

3494
02:30:43,630 --> 02:30:42,020
yeah he replaced he replaced Beyonce

3495
02:30:45,550 --> 02:30:43,640
because of the scandal involving her

3496
02:30:52,690 --> 02:30:45,560
lip-syncing at the inaugural yeah you

3497
02:30:54,460 --> 02:30:52,700
can't lip-sync at the inaugural on

3498
02:30:56,380 --> 02:30:54,470
television seven years ago I haven't had

3499
02:30:59,830 --> 02:30:56,390
a TV in the house in seven years so I

3500
02:31:01,210 --> 02:30:59,840
miss out in all this celebrity yeah well

3501
02:31:02,860 --> 02:31:01,220
you can you know you hear about later

3502
02:31:04,930 --> 02:31:02,870
look it up on YouTube because surely you

3503
02:31:07,890 --> 02:31:04,940
have a computer right oh I've got about

3504
02:31:10,210 --> 02:31:07,900
five of them but who's counting my dogs

3505
02:31:11,381 --> 02:31:10,220
listen we're getting deep into this

3506
02:31:13,240 --> 02:31:11,391
conspiracy stuff

3507
02:31:16,890 --> 02:31:13,250
we're getting into the super bowl

3508
02:31:19,690 --> 02:31:16,900
conspiracy and now the dogs are arguing

3509
02:31:21,761 --> 02:31:19,700
well you know Beyonce and jay-z they

3510
02:31:23,410 --> 02:31:21,771
they're they're into the Illuminati and

3511
02:31:25,810 --> 02:31:23,420
they do these they have the kids do the

3512
02:31:28,120 --> 02:31:25,820
sigils and the mudras and the cymbals

3513
02:31:29,860 --> 02:31:28,130
and they they've got their their their

3514
02:31:32,110 --> 02:31:29,870
clothing line that has the eye and the

3515
02:31:34,120 --> 02:31:32,120
pyramid and they they do all this

3516
02:31:36,131 --> 02:31:34,130
mumbo-jumbo stuff that they're really

3517
02:31:38,770 --> 02:31:36,141
into all that kind of stuff from what I

3518
02:31:41,591 --> 02:31:38,780
understand that's right well Dylan's

3519
02:31:42,610 --> 02:31:41,601
only into Jesus as far as I can tell but

3520
02:31:46,841 --> 02:31:42,620
yeah you know interesting thing about

3521
02:31:49,001 --> 02:31:46,851
Facebook is that if you if you watch it

3522
02:31:50,650 --> 02:31:49,011
on a large screen like 55 inch 70 inch

3523
02:31:51,970 --> 02:31:50,660
television you really get more of a

3524
02:31:53,950 --> 02:31:51,980
sense of what's actually going on there

3525
02:31:56,020 --> 02:31:53,960
Facebook is a lot of people use it and

3526
02:31:57,761 --> 02:31:56,030
think of it just like it's a mail but

3527
02:32:00,730 --> 02:31:57,771
it's not you've got your own television

3528
02:32:02,591 --> 02:32:00,740
station there you know yeah if you look

3529
02:32:04,751 --> 02:32:02,601
at it a large screen you realize a

3530
02:32:07,870 --> 02:32:04,761
firfer your sense of privacy disappears

3531
02:32:10,091 --> 02:32:07,880
for one thing and you realize they're

3532
02:32:11,560 --> 02:32:10,101
out there you know like this millions

3533
02:32:14,110 --> 02:32:11,570
and millions of television channels

3534
02:32:17,640 --> 02:32:14,120
everybody's got one now yeah yeah

3535
02:32:19,780 --> 02:32:17,650
exactly look at the privacy settings for

3536
02:32:21,640 --> 02:32:19,790
Facebook they're very convoluted very

3537
02:32:23,381 --> 02:32:21,650
confusing they keep telling you they're

3538
02:32:25,120 --> 02:32:23,391
going to fix it and they make it more

3539
02:32:26,801 --> 02:32:25,130
and more complicated and now we have a

3540
02:32:28,631 --> 02:32:26,811
situation where Google wants to get into

3541
02:32:31,091 --> 02:32:28,641
that game you know it can't be just

3542
02:32:34,450 --> 02:32:31,101
Facebook with the personal TV set or

3543
02:32:36,791 --> 02:32:34,460
personal TV station it is Google Plus

3544
02:32:38,530 --> 02:32:36,801
Google Plus has tens of millions of

3545
02:32:40,570 --> 02:32:38,540
people but I think most people just

3546
02:32:43,450 --> 02:32:40,580
never use it and that's a good question

3547
02:32:46,600 --> 02:32:43,460
to hear all right so everything about

3548
02:32:48,581 --> 02:32:46,610
you is already on Facebook you want to

3549
02:32:50,320 --> 02:32:48,591
know something about somebody it's on

3550
02:32:52,961 --> 02:32:50,330
Facebook because a lot of people are led

3551
02:32:55,631 --> 02:32:52,971
to believe it's just a way for people to

3552
02:32:57,280 --> 02:32:55,641
talk privately to each other fat chance

3553
02:32:59,640 --> 02:32:57,290
maybe it won't happen if you do the

3554
02:33:03,450 --> 02:32:59,650
proper settings it's the most ingenious

3555
02:33:05,860 --> 02:33:03,460
intelligence-gathering tool ever devised

3556
02:33:08,470 --> 02:33:05,870
well I'm one step ahead of the game my

3557
02:33:11,650 --> 02:33:08,480
facebook page is called steam shovel

3558
02:33:13,360 --> 02:33:11,660
press it's not about me it's about the

3559
02:33:16,421 --> 02:33:13,370
research and all the weird stuff that I

3560
02:33:17,980 --> 02:33:16,431
can find and in toast so it's a

3561
02:33:20,291 --> 02:33:17,990
Christine shallow distinction what has

3562
02:33:23,801 --> 02:33:20,301
Facebook in many ways is an extension of

3563
02:33:25,179 --> 02:33:23,811
my old jeans only with I put videos and

3564
02:33:27,370 --> 02:33:25,189
research and stuff like that

3565
02:33:29,559 --> 02:33:27,380
I put my personal information up there

3566
02:33:35,620 --> 02:33:29,569
at all I just use a television station

3567
02:33:38,800 --> 02:33:35,630
no I found your phone number there that

3568
02:33:40,569 --> 02:33:38,810
is invading my privacy is Wikipedia they

3569
02:33:42,040 --> 02:33:40,579
keep putting my the year of my birth and

3570
02:33:43,239 --> 02:33:42,050
the city where I live and I don't want

3571
02:33:44,859 --> 02:33:43,249
that on then I keep going up there

3572
02:33:47,050 --> 02:33:44,869
taking it off I'm gonna he's putting it

3573
02:33:49,179 --> 02:33:47,060
back on did this back and forth for a

3574
02:33:53,370 --> 02:33:49,189
while now I've registered a complaint

3575
02:33:56,199 --> 02:33:53,380
and they're considering my complaint and

3576
02:33:58,689 --> 02:33:56,209
knowing if I'll get out I'm glad I don't

3577
02:34:00,160 --> 02:33:58,699
have a wiki page boy I don't have one

3578
02:34:02,469 --> 02:34:00,170
either we have one for the power cast

3579
02:34:04,149 --> 02:34:02,479
which needs to be edited and by the way

3580
02:34:06,340 --> 02:34:04,159
I welcome anyone who is really good at

3581
02:34:08,500 --> 02:34:06,350
Wikipedia stuff to get in touch with me

3582
02:34:10,660 --> 02:34:08,510
after the show and we'll try to work on

3583
02:34:12,760 --> 02:34:10,670
our page but I don't want to make a page

3584
02:34:14,349 --> 02:34:12,770
about me I don't want about Chris I

3585
02:34:16,510 --> 02:34:14,359
don't want one about any of our people

3586
02:34:19,239 --> 02:34:16,520
everybody needs some kind of assistant

3587
02:34:21,279 --> 02:34:19,249
to manage all that stuff you know I I

3588
02:34:22,840 --> 02:34:21,289
just can't pay attention you know I'm

3589
02:34:24,099 --> 02:34:22,850
not here to learn their roles it's there

3590
02:34:26,199 --> 02:34:24,109
to serve me that's the other way around

3591
02:34:29,920 --> 02:34:26,209
if I want to share something on Facebook

3592
02:34:31,420 --> 02:34:29,930
I'll just swipe the the Earl and taste

3593
02:34:34,510 --> 02:34:31,430
it in I won't use their little share

3594
02:34:35,559 --> 02:34:34,520
button or anything like that you know

3595
02:34:38,139 --> 02:34:35,569
I'm not gonna waste a lot of my time

3596
02:34:43,330 --> 02:34:38,149
learning their crap they're there to

3597
02:34:45,460 --> 02:34:43,340
learn my crap or at least take a good

3598
02:34:47,410 --> 02:34:45,470
sniff hey I want to tell you something

3599
02:34:50,410 --> 02:34:47,420
here about Wikipedia the first paragraph

3600
02:34:53,800 --> 02:34:50,420
the topic of this article may not meet

3601
02:34:56,710 --> 02:34:53,810
Wikipedia's notability guidelines for

3602
02:34:58,300 --> 02:34:56,720
biographies I guess I could feel you're

3603
02:35:01,660 --> 02:34:58,310
not famous enough okay

3604
02:35:06,609 --> 02:35:01,670
that's right and yet there it is there

3605
02:35:08,769 --> 02:35:06,619
you're right you never get this stuff

3606
02:35:10,630 --> 02:35:08,779
taken down right now you know I don't

3607
02:35:11,949 --> 02:35:10,640
even know what's out there you like I

3608
02:35:13,899 --> 02:35:11,959
said you have to hire an assistant to

3609
02:35:16,269 --> 02:35:13,909
just search the web and find in

3610
02:35:17,830 --> 02:35:16,279
different places you know there's

3611
02:35:19,750 --> 02:35:17,840
probably people out there just taking my

3612
02:35:21,550 --> 02:35:19,760
books in total and putting them out

3613
02:35:24,130 --> 02:35:21,560
online and some of all kinds of

3614
02:35:26,260 --> 02:35:24,140
violations of copyright and privacy and

3615
02:35:28,630 --> 02:35:26,270
it's the Wild West really well you know

3616
02:35:31,120 --> 02:35:28,640
of course there are companies now who

3617
02:35:32,500 --> 02:35:31,130
are like reputation defenders that might

3618
02:35:34,660 --> 02:35:32,510
be the name of one of the companies and

3619
02:35:37,059 --> 02:35:34,670
they promise that if you pay them this

3620
02:35:37,899 --> 02:35:37,069
given amount of money for each instance

3621
02:35:38,440 --> 02:35:37,909
or something like that

3622
02:35:40,390 --> 02:35:38,450
they

3623
02:35:42,671 --> 02:35:40,400
go out on the Internet and somehow

3624
02:35:44,770 --> 02:35:42,681
intervene to get some of the bad

3625
02:35:47,230 --> 02:35:44,780
information about you taken off now of

3626
02:35:48,400 --> 02:35:47,240
course with the power cast we are I

3627
02:35:50,950 --> 02:35:48,410
don't know if we're famous or infamous

3628
02:35:52,631 --> 02:35:50,960
in our own minds but there are sites out

3629
02:35:54,520 --> 02:35:52,641
there to talk about us sometimes they're

3630
02:35:56,650 --> 02:35:54,530
friendly sometimes they're not and of

3631
02:35:58,180 --> 02:35:56,660
course I underwent and have underwent a

3632
02:36:01,060 --> 02:35:58,190
number of financial problems which of

3633
02:36:02,770 --> 02:36:01,070
course is something which is a very evil

3634
02:36:05,261 --> 02:36:02,780
thing to do you know people who suffer

3635
02:36:07,360 --> 02:36:05,271
people who have any kind of negative

3636
02:36:09,640 --> 02:36:07,370
experience I have found people who

3637
02:36:12,881 --> 02:36:09,650
complain about that so there you go

3638
02:36:14,381 --> 02:36:12,891
people look I don't mind if somebody

3639
02:36:16,780 --> 02:36:14,391
gets someone to argue with me about a

3640
02:36:18,671 --> 02:36:16,790
point I made or some something they

3641
02:36:21,070 --> 02:36:18,681
think I said they that's always

3642
02:36:22,511 --> 02:36:21,080
ignorance and I don't mind a fight and I

3643
02:36:24,790 --> 02:36:22,521
don't mind being negative and I in fact

3644
02:36:27,370 --> 02:36:24,800
I don't like all the glad-handing that

3645
02:36:29,020 --> 02:36:27,380
goes on I don't like Facebook and all

3646
02:36:31,000 --> 02:36:29,030
the cute puppy photographs and the

3647
02:36:32,440 --> 02:36:31,010
little new-age aphorisms and everything

3648
02:36:34,120 --> 02:36:32,450
that people put up there it's a big

3649
02:36:35,801 --> 02:36:34,130
waste of time for the most part I don't

3650
02:36:37,870 --> 02:36:35,811
mind arguing with people I mind being

3651
02:36:40,301 --> 02:36:37,880
negative but you're right intrusions in

3652
02:36:43,240 --> 02:36:40,311
the privacy and you know doing in

3653
02:36:45,881 --> 02:36:43,250
personal damage to other people right I

3654
02:36:47,381 --> 02:36:45,891
just think people need a life I mean in

3655
02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:47,391
this day and age people have enough

3656
02:36:51,640 --> 02:36:49,010
trouble just surviving the game of

3657
02:36:53,410 --> 02:36:51,650
survival is difficult enough and we hear

3658
02:36:55,091 --> 02:36:53,420
the power cats are trying to explore all

3659
02:36:56,381 --> 02:36:55,101
sorts of mysteries and we look at the

3660
02:36:58,960 --> 02:36:56,391
conspiracies that we're talking about

3661
02:37:01,720 --> 02:36:58,970
with Ken Thomas some of them may end up

3662
02:37:03,850 --> 02:37:01,730
just not passing muster that the

3663
02:37:05,650 --> 02:37:03,860
conventional wisdom is correct others

3664
02:37:07,631 --> 02:37:05,660
you know we're seeing more and more that

3665
02:37:10,570 --> 02:37:07,641
there are weird things going around

3666
02:37:11,801 --> 02:37:10,580
behind the scenes stuff maybe hiding in

3667
02:37:13,930 --> 02:37:11,811
plain sight that we're trying to

3668
02:37:15,160 --> 02:37:13,940
understand and discover and that's why

3669
02:37:17,921 --> 02:37:15,170
we're here each and every week not to

3670
02:37:19,690 --> 02:37:17,931
pander to people but to ask the

3671
02:37:22,060 --> 02:37:19,700
questions we bring ken Thomas on every

3672
02:37:24,190 --> 02:37:22,070
year or two because he has lots of

3673
02:37:25,450 --> 02:37:24,200
thought-provoking things to say and

3674
02:37:27,430 --> 02:37:25,460
maybe you'll agree with some of the

3675
02:37:30,190 --> 02:37:27,440
things he says maybe you won't agree

3676
02:37:32,290 --> 02:37:30,200
with other things but you have to say he

3677
02:37:34,450 --> 02:37:32,300
pushes the right buttons to get you to

3678
02:37:36,970 --> 02:37:34,460
think yeah I've got to think don't just

3679
02:37:38,650 --> 02:37:36,980
accept your favorite reality show as

3680
02:37:40,690 --> 02:37:38,660
being reality because reality shows a

3681
02:37:42,940 --> 02:37:40,700
not reality they are the ultimate form

3682
02:37:44,620 --> 02:37:42,950
of drama in fact we're maybe the worst

3683
02:37:46,780 --> 02:37:44,630
form of drama because some of it is so

3684
02:37:48,190 --> 02:37:46,790
amateurish Ken Thomas tell our listeners

3685
02:37:51,550 --> 02:37:48,200
where they can find more of the things

3686
02:37:54,700 --> 02:37:51,560
you do the main new product

3687
02:37:57,550 --> 02:37:54,710
is popular para politics it's a Kindle

3688
02:38:00,550 --> 02:37:57,560
book and you just type that title into

3689
02:38:03,040 --> 02:38:00,560
amazon.com and you can find it and list

3690
02:38:05,889 --> 02:38:03,050
of its contents and a free Kindle app

3691
02:38:07,479 --> 02:38:05,899
that's one way to go I'm using this year

3692
02:38:10,000 --> 02:38:07,489
the 50th anniversary of Kennedy

3693
02:38:12,219 --> 02:38:10,010
assassination to do a different lecture

3694
02:38:14,439 --> 02:38:12,229
gigs so if you have a group or something

3695
02:38:16,479 --> 02:38:14,449
that you want me to speak at please

3696
02:38:17,889 --> 02:38:16,489
contact me I just got back from doing a

3697
02:38:21,490 --> 02:38:17,899
marvelous little thing in Los Angeles

3698
02:38:23,830 --> 02:38:21,500
and hopefully I've got fiji press

3699
02:38:25,750 --> 02:38:23,840
working on atlanta i think could be the

3700
02:38:28,510 --> 02:38:25,760
next place they go go to steam shovel

3701
02:38:30,280 --> 02:38:28,520
press come to learn more about the

3702
02:38:32,500 --> 02:38:30,290
things that Ken Thomas does Chris

3703
02:38:34,689 --> 02:38:32,510
O'Brien's founded our strange planet

3704
02:38:37,359 --> 02:38:34,699
that come that's our strange planet calm

3705
02:38:38,590 --> 02:38:37,369
more and more things going up there the

3706
02:38:41,710 --> 02:38:38,600
sights getting better and better every

3707
02:38:44,620 --> 02:38:41,720
day and you can find us at the para Cass

3708
02:38:46,030 --> 02:38:44,630
calm that's the para cast calm Ken

3709
02:38:48,099 --> 02:38:46,040
Thomas thank you for joining us this

3710
02:38:53,270 --> 02:38:48,109
week I'm the power cast thank you for

3711
02:38:59,809 --> 02:38:56,290
[Music]

3712
02:39:02,689 --> 02:38:59,819
the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

3713
02:39:05,679 --> 02:39:02,699
and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

3714
02:39:09,410 --> 02:39:05,689
presentation of making the impossible